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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2005, 07:50:28 am »
Hi. I'm very new with the Zaurus, only using the SL-5500 a few weeks. Are these links in the first post in this section saying that Sharp is still producing the Zaurus? I hope so, because i like the product, and can see myslelf satying with it for a while.
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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2005, 08:05:16 am »
Yes, not the same hardware as yours though.

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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2005, 08:21:46 am »
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Edit: question: whats the difference between the OpenPDA and Lineo kernels?
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Just different names for the same product I think...
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I think Metrowerks 'own' the OpenPDA name now so I guess if Metrowerks aren't involved it's better not to call it that.

Their OpenPDA stuff is basically Qtopia and an IDE (I think) aimed at the OEM market - not sure if they actually provide a Kernel - I suspect not as this would normally be OEM developed (or Leneo'd off).
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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2005, 09:10:39 pm »
ok there new zaurus is now available on price japan
i want to buy one but i want to know if it is possible to convert this zaurus to english ???
r the c1000 more memory than the c860 ????
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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2005, 09:54:59 pm »
robint,

In answer to your question, the Z is still being produced but for the Japanese market only. They are, however, converted to English and exported by several companies to U.S. & Europe which you will find if you search through these forums.

What I want to know is why won't Sharp add wi-fi to these new C models? Does it really cost that much to include? Would Salaryman be offended if the Z came with wi-fi and he had no use for it? He might find it useful if he went overseas on business trips. Sharp knows third party exporters are shipping a boatload of these to the rest of the world.  Just toss in wi-fi on the highest level model and charge a little more. I'd buy it & so would many of my geek brethren.    

It's too bad they didn't further develop that cellphone. In its prototype state, it was committee ugly, but it had great potential. I guess it was a "safe" move on Sharp's part to axe it, but the future is in smartphones, not PDA's. They are going to have to evolve to that soon or risk dropping the Z biz altogether.
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« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2005, 04:10:56 am »
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ok there new zaurus is now available on price japan
i want to buy one but i want to know if it is possible to convert this zaurus to english ???
r the c1000 more memory than the c860 ????
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Nice price on the 1000, that is what the 860 cost yesterday. The 860 has dropped 2000 yen.

I would imagine that the 1000 will convert to english in exactly the same way a 3000 does. Have a look in the 3000 group there are a few message threads there right near the start of the group (so the oldest messages).

Give it a week or two and the importing companies will have instructions out and people on here will have done it.

The 860 at this time has more interesting total conversions in a range of ROM replacements that the 3000/1000 currently doesn't have. But they will appear given time.

And yes the 1000 has more memory than the 860.

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« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2005, 07:47:39 am »
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And yes the 1000 has more memory than the 860.

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I'm sorry but I think you are wrong on this count.

The C1000 has exactly the same memory and flash configuration as the C860 and C760 according to [a href=\"http://ezaurus.com/lineup/sl/compare_spec.html]Sharps Zaurus spec page[/url]

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         C1000        C860        C760
 Flash    128MB        128MB       128MB
 Rom       64MB         64MB        64MB

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« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2005, 07:50:25 am »
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And yes the 1000 has more memory than the 860.

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I'm sorry but I think you are wrong on this count.

The C1000 has exactly the same memory and flash configuration as the C860 and C760 according to [a href=\"http://ezaurus.com/lineup/sl/compare_spec.html]Sharps Zaurus spec page[/url]

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         C1000        C860        C760
 Flash    128MB        128MB       128MB
 Rom       64MB         64MB        64MB

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Oops. Good call Stu. I guess I was scanning my specs too quickly.

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« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2005, 09:51:31 pm »
Just curious why C1000 has the same dimensions as C3000? Besides obvious cost saving with avoiding  case redesign, maybe that indicates that C1000 has a second CF slot connector inside? That would be very cool if true, since obviously opens a whole lot of opportunities for adding second CF device. Also it would be interesting to see the dmesg output on C1000. If Sharp is planning a model with builtin wireless card and/or bluetooth, they may want to add internal USB hub, that would be cool to have... Other than that, I don't really see anything exciting about C1000, seems more like a marketing ploy than technical achivement...
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« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2005, 05:51:59 am »
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Just curious why C1000 has the same dimensions as C3000? Besides obvious cost saving with avoiding  case redesign, maybe that indicates that C1000 has a second CF slot connector inside? That would be very cool if true, since obviously opens a whole lot of opportunities for adding second CF device. Also it would be interesting to see the dmesg output on C1000. If Sharp is planning a model with builtin wireless card and/or bluetooth, they may want to add internal USB hub, that would be cool to have... Other than that, I don't really see anything exciting about C1000, seems more like a marketing ploy than technical achivement...
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well, everyone's expressed their opinion as to what's inside the C1000. We'll just have to wait till someone posts photos of one being dismantled.

My bet is on an internal CF card, it's the cheapest way for Sharp to produce a new model with zero effort.

The real shame is that there's still no clamshell with networking, neither bluetooth or wlan or even good old ethernet - at least usbnet exists to do tcpip over usb.
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« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2005, 06:16:45 am »
Just curious.  Does anyone know whether the C860 fell in price after it was launched?  The current price of the 1000 (still pretty high for a toy) and the time it will take to port the various roms to it is putting me off.  

I'd go for the 860 for the software options but I'd really like the usb host feature.

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« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2005, 06:38:14 am »
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Just curious.  Does anyone know whether the C860 fell in price after it was launched?  The current price of the 1000 (still pretty high for a toy) and the time it will take to port the various roms to it is putting me off. 

I'd go for the 860 for the software options but I'd really like the usb host feature.

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Price of the 860 dropped by 2000yen (approx £10/$20) at PriceJapan.

So nothing significant.

It seems thehe 860 is being replaced by the 1000, so I expect production has stopped and the remaining units may end up getting cleared out.

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« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2005, 06:43:08 am »
Thanks, but I was a bit vague there.  I was wondering whether the C860 dropped in price after the C860 was launched, say one or two months down the line.

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« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2005, 06:57:48 am »
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Thanks, but I was a bit vague there.  I was wondering whether the C860 dropped in price after the C860 was launched, say one or two months down the line.

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All hardware drops in price given time! It is just how long you are prepared to wait, and as soon as it gets to a nice level you probably want the next thing!

I don't remember how much the 860 was originally, but we've come down quite a bit since I bought my first one last year. The prices have stayed fairly stable though, they haven't dropped with the speed PCs seem to, so if you buy a 1000 now I doubt you'll feel too distressed in 6 months time.

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« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2005, 10:58:21 am »
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Just curious why C1000 has the same dimensions as C3000? Besides obvious cost saving with avoiding  case redesign, maybe that indicates that C1000 has a second CF slot connector inside?[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this but the features comparison table that has been mentioned does in fact say that the C1k has 2 CF slots.  It also shows the C860 as having 1 and the C3k as having 2.  Here's a link to the [a href=\"http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fezaurus.com%2Flineup%2Fsl%2Fcompare_spec.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools]google translation[/url].

Based on that it seems like a good possibility that there is an internal connector.

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