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[slackwaresupport]

good. got that.  overclocked, opera, kdepim, kismet with qt, qtrdesktop, and a few games,
working great.
havent got it to sync yet. having problems with my kapi on my laptop.  but im sure its fine on the zaurus.  also im still running the 1.11

[iamasmith]

.... also im still running the 1.11
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Excellent... bit confused about the last bit though... do you mean the version of the memory monitor applet? If so then yes, haven't changed the version number on it.

- Andy

[speculatrix]

so, how soon till kernel 2.6 is running :-)

[sriley]

Musicplayer, memory applet and Opera all work as advertised.

No USB devices on hand to check.

Apache w/ PHP preinstalled wouldn't hurt my feelings.

This "alpha" ROM is looking great, to me.

[iamasmith]

so, how soon till kernel 2.6 is running :-)
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  lol, but I can do you a nice line in openbsd...

[kahm]

You can mount file systems using just the /dev/sda type device, however, I would be very careful with something like an MP3 player just in case you upset something that the device uses to boot. As mentioned lots of pen drives present no partition table so it's reasonable to suggest that Windows doesn't care about partition tables on USB devices.. this may explain the MP3 player drive.

It may be a problem with the RCA, then. I poked around with it for a few minutes and was utterly unable to get /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 to mount. I'll check to see if I can mount it under Mandrake linux, and I'll check to see what windows reports for a partition table.

I've got a DLink DL-624 and it works perfectly with DHCP to my Senao WLAN card on the new ROM. This is getting to be a strange problem that I may not be able to locate without some different HW. The real problem is traffic sniffing the WLAN stuff, I found the ping going on whilst using my Linux box as a NAT/gateway device (setting up Wireless sync to VMWare guest).

My network has a linux based DHCP server. My WAP is actually a DI-614 where I've disabled the DHCP server. The problem seems to be that I'm somehow still getting IPs from the 614 instead of my networks server. It might just be specific to me - I suspect a firmware bug in the 614 triggered by something unexpected in the newer Sharp DHCP protocol. I wouldn't worry about it unless someone else starts reporting issues on it. Further investigation is required on my end as the 1000 and 3000 had different results when they were both using the 1.01jp rom. The same version of DHCPCD is installed on both.

Ah, pretty poor. That's not something we are going to be able to do much about unless Sharp fix it.... the only other thing that I can think of is create a symbolic link off flash pointing to /mnt/usbstorage. This will report the NotAvailable file when not mounted. - just browse to it as a location in flash.

I was thinking that might be the best option. Or at least an alternative. I haven't checked too many apps to see if they're affected by it yet.

Thanks for all your help, good to get some feedback.

(tsk.. 100 replies and we broke the quote tags !)

If we're breaking the board, perhaps a mailing list might be better. I don't have a mail server set up anywhere anymore, but I know people I can pester for one. Or, with only 6 people, even a CC list would work.

[kahm]

Musicplayer, memory applet and Opera all work as advertised.

No USB devices on hand to check.

Apache w/ PHP preinstalled wouldn't hurt my feelings.

This "alpha" ROM is looking great, to me.
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But Apache isn't something a huge number of end users will feel the need for. I'll poke around at the IPKs this weekend and see if I can make ipks that will "just work" for 3000 users. What version of mysql do people end up using to go with Apache-PHP? I had to dig up my own because the Cacko feed didn't include Mysql, last I checked.

Opera might be a better candidate for inclusion. I use mainly Opera, but sometimes netfront works better on a particular site. Others I know are the opposite.

I am a big fan of the Cacko-lite rom - I almost halved my installed apps with it because I don't use a lot of the stock stuff. That's probably for consideration much later, though.

[iamasmith]

My network has a linux based DHCP server. My WAP is actually a DI-614 where I've disabled the DHCP server. The problem seems to be that I'm somehow still getting IPs from the 614 instead of my networks server. It might just be specific to me - I suspect a firmware bug in the 614 triggered by something unexpected in the newer Sharp DHCP protocol. I wouldn't worry about it unless someone else starts reporting issues on it. Further investigation is required on my end as the 1000 and 3000 had different results when they were both using the 1.01jp rom. The same version of DHCPCD is installed on both.

Nope, not aware of any new DHCP versions and the Option codes used when not understood should just be discarded.

On my DHCP conversation I get...

1. DHCP Discover from the SL-C3000 containing these options....

Option 52: DHCP Message Type = DHP Discover
Option 57: Maximum DHCP Message Size = 548
Option 51: IP Address Lease Time = Infinity
Option 55: Parameter Request List
   1 = Subnet mask
   3 = Router
   6 = Domain Name Server
   12 = Host name
   15 = Domain name
   17 = Root Path
   23 = Default IP Time-to-Live
   28 = Broadcast Address
   29 = Perform Mask Discovery
   31 = Perform Router Discover
   33 = Static Route
   40 = Network Information Service Domain
   41 = Network Information Service Servers
   42 = Network Time Protocol Servers
Option 60: vendor class identifier = "Linux 2.4.20 armv5tel"
Option 61: Client Identifier
  Hardware type: Ethernet
  Client hardware address: My-mac-address-which-I'm-not-sharing.

2. The DHCP Server offers...

Option 53: DHCP Message Type = DHCP Offer
Option 1: Subnet Mask = 255.255.0.0
Option 51: IP Address Lease Time = Infinity
Option 3: Router = 10.255.255.254
Option 6: Domain Name Server = 10.255.255.254
Option 54: Server Identifier = 10.255.255.254

3. Z then requests..

Option 53: DHCP Message Type = DHCP Request
Option 57: Maximum DHCP Message Size = 548
Option 54: Server Identifier = 10.255.255.254
Option 50: Request IP Address = 10.255.255.100
Option 51: IP Address Lease Time = Infinity
Option 55: Parameter Request List
   1 = Subnet Mask
   3 = Router
   6 = Domain Name Server
   12 = Host Name
   15 = Domain Name
   16 = Root Path
   23 = Default IP Time-to-Live
   28 = Broadcast Address
   29 = Perform Mask Discovery
   31 = Perform Router Discover
   33 = Static Route
   40 = Network Information Service Domain
   41 = Network Information Service Servers
   42 = Network Time Protocol Servers
Option 60: vendor class identifier = "Linux 2.4.20 armv5tel"
Option 61: Client Identifier
  Hardware type: Ethernet
  Client hardware address: My-mac-address-which-I'm-not-sharing.

4. DHCP Server sends ACK

Option 53: DHCP Message Type = DHCP ACK
Option 1: Subnet Mask = 255.255.0.0
Option 51: IP Address Lease Time = infinity
Option 3: Router = 10.255.255.254
Option 6: Domain Name Server = 10.255.255.254
Option 54: Server Identifier = 10.255.255.254

That's it... succesful DHCP lease!

If your DHCP Server is on a Linux host any chance of firing up Ethereal and showing us what it thinks is going on?

Actually, thinking about it.. did your 860 originally get the IP address from the DLINK WAP ?
If so, and the 860 is treating that as truly an infinite lease time then the renew message will only be sent to the address of the WAP box... getting no response it will keep its address unless you release it..

Another hypothesis is a buggy DHCP daemon on the WIFI box that still responds to Renew requests but stops responding to Discovers/Leases when disabled.... Sniffing has got to be the answer to this one.

- Andy

[kahm]

Actually, thinking about it.. did your 860 originally get the IP address from the DLINK WAP ?
If so, and the 860 is treating that as truly an infinite lease time then the renew message will only be sent to the address of the WAP box... getting no response it will keep its address unless you release it..

Nice try, but I don't think so. I had a second 860 that I brought in long after the 614's DHCP server was disabled, flashed to cacko, plugged the card in, set it up for the WEP, and it got an address from the 614 and not my network.    

Another hypothesis is a buggy DHCP daemon on the WIFI box that still responds to Renew requests but stops responding to Discovers/Leases when disabled.... Sniffing has got to be the answer to this one.

- Andy
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If nothing else, I definitely believe in the bugginess of Dlink firmware.

It never bothered me enough to try and track down the issue. Too many variables to isolate with too little gain  I have connected with a half dozen other WAPs with various states of WEP or lack thereof without problems. If I have time I'll see fi I can get ethereal running sometime this weekend to try and sort out what's up.

[iamasmith]

Kahm,

Does it make any difference if you use a different card? Maybe it's something related to existing entries in the lease database on the WAP DHCP server (if it's buggy).

- Andy

[kahm]

Kahm,

Does it make any difference if you use a different card? Maybe it's something related to existing entries in the lease database on the WAP DHCP server (if it's buggy).

- Andy
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I only have the WCF12. CF Wireless cards are *extremely* rare in Edmonton. I only even saw 2 or 3 for sale when I was in Akihabara and Den-Den town, so I'm stuck with this one

It happened on two different WCF12, bought well over a year apart. I can get access to a wired CF card, but that won't be until my friend returns from Japan in about 3 months.

The WCF12 works in my 5x00 fine, and for my laptops I've used a Dlink 650+, Netgear MA401, and an SMC2532W-B without problems under Win2k, WinXp, and Mandrake 10. (It may not surprise you to find out that I've been looking for the ultimate portable computing device for a while. I currently own, in increasing order of size, a Toshiba Libretto 50m, Toshiba libretto 100ct, Panasonic Toughbook M34, a P3-450 IBM thinkpad (M series? Can't remember), and a Thinkpad A21p) The Sharp 860 running Cacko 1.22 and the C3000 running the stock rom are thus far the only configurations that display the error. I didn't even try Cakco3k-alpha1 yet, I just hardcoded it.

Using the 860 I can get a 192. ip from the disabled Dlink, eject the card, stick it in the 5500, and get a 10. ip address. It has so far been very consistent.

[euroclie]

Tried the latest memory applet, it works great with a 128Mb swap in the hard drive. Nice!  I didn't even notice any particular initial slowdown...

About Appache+PHP+MySQL, I'd love indeed to be able to install that in a single package, or in separate packages that go along smoothly, but I'm not sure it needs to be integrated in the basic ROM... Granted, the 3000 has quite a large hard drive, so the amount of space taken by the ROM is probably not a big deal when compared to the free space available, but some might object that it eats too much space when you don't need it, should it be included (with an option not to run it).

[speculatrix]

About Appache+PHP+MySQL, I'd love indeed to be able to install that in a single package, or in separate packages that go along smoothly, but I'm not sure it needs to be integrated in the basic ROM... Granted, the 3000 has quite a large hard drive, so the amount of space taken by the ROM

Why not go the whole hog: apache + php + tomcat + mod_perl + + +? Might as well throw in the Oracle client too :-)

it's always nice when there's a standard package people can use to get started, but I think you'll find that 99.9% of Zaurus users would only ever need the most basic of cgi support if they needed apache at all.

[iamasmith]

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OK, I'm going to be travelling from late Saturday evening (9th) and will not be online again until at least the 24th when I return from holiday.

Here is the current issue list to be patched into the alpha2 ROM when we come back... I would appreciate if all of you alpha testers could consolidate your issue list and potentially any fixes that you may have found in the meantime once I return.

voice recorder possibly to be added from 860 build.... to be tested.
Opera to be added
Wireless Monitor
Memory Monitor applet.. swapfile bits. - fixed in patch - just include.
Battery/CPU Frequency Application... Anton says he will work on this. (please don't start lobbying Aton for updates, he's not got a device to test with yet and is very busy on the regular Cacko stuff).
Remove the Shift toggle from keyhelper.xml
Media Player is screwed... missed pic144 directory... simple fix.
Remove samba from /etc/rc.d/init.d otherwise inetd dies when you sync.
DHCP in certain environment seems not to work... need more detailed info.


I will post a message saying that I'm back.. please then post your consolidated findings over the period.

Have fun,

Andy

[sriley]

As a followup to my list of apps and how well they function, zaurus-fbvncserver 0.3-slc700-0.4 functions, but borks things afterward.  I keypebbled in from my 760 and was able to browse files and tabs.  After closing the connection from the 760 and going back to my 3000, I was unable to launch any application from its icon.  I was able to check the different tabs, and when I tried to launch apps I'd get the exploded icon, but no application.  I stopped the VNC server and was still unable to launch apps except for the final one I tried, which was "Shutdown".

I restarted Qtopia and everything worked again.  :/

Kind of a shame because although I have no pressing need to VNC into my 3000, it does look cool when I'm showing my 3000 off.