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« on: April 23, 2005, 09:50:37 pm »
Have installed 3.5.3 on a SL-5600.  How do I get other packages?  3.5.3 is quite barebone and ussability "out-of-the-box" is almos nill.  I've managed to get online with my wifi card and update the package list but the package manager takes forever, freezes, keeps putting out an error msg : "iPKG backend failure, cannot continue.".  The only option is to Close.  This error dialog shows upt BENEATH the -gpe-package Upgrading packag lists dialog.  It just stays there forever doing nothing.  Sometimes it completely wipes out.  I'm just about giving up on 3.5.3 and going back to Sharp ROM or Zynergy.  Even 3.5.3 with Opie worked a whole lot better and comes with just about everything but, and this is a matter of preferences, I just hate the the look!

Also, anyone have problems logging in as root or other user?  I've had to reset to get this to let me login again.  Owner info doesn't show up unless you log out and back in.  But the lack of programs is my big complaint.  Anyone shed a little light on this?  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2005, 01:23:11 am »
I guess the gpe packagemanager needs some work. In the meantime, why not use the good old command line? You can log in as user, then open a root shell and 'ipkg ...'
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2005, 03:44:25 am »
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I guess the gpe packagemanager needs some work. In the meantime, why not use the good old command line? You can log in as user, then open a root shell and 'ipkg ...'
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Yeah.  That works great.. if you've used oz before and notice that the  "gnome" section of the feed isn't in sources list before you try to install the file manager, for example.

I admit that stuff like this isn't hard to figure out if one is willing to d a little poking around. But I bet more than one new user hit this problem ( I forget which packageit is--not that it matters)or one very like it and freaked.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2005, 04:50:07 am »
Right, which is the very reason why may open source projects would especially benefit from contributions from less experienced users. Seems hard to activate those guys though...
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2005, 09:20:10 am »
Activate Me!
Seriously, I would like to help on GPE.
Just let me know what I can do.
I have used debian 2 years so I know a little about linux, switched to debian from RedHat becouse I like stability and CONTROL!

I would like to contribute a more XP like theme as soon as I can figure out how.
When I get  OZ online thru my linux box it will really help.

Also I bet I can port  some aps to OZ/GPE! And would love to write some documentation.

Email me at "lawrence at pastimes dot cc" and let me know how I can help.

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2005, 11:35:35 am »
OK, I'll have to take this up again because I got no real answers here.  Telling me to use ipkg is really no answer at all and defeats what a forum is for. The answer I would expect from all you experienced, over a thousand post people would be somewhat along these lines:

"If you flash your SL6000 with gpe and the latest 3.5.3 version you will be left with an almost unusable Zaurus.  To get it up to par with Opie or the Sharp ROM or Zynergy, you need to install the following packages:

- the following lib ipks...
- package such and such
- package bla bla bla....
...etc.

Do so using ipkg from a terminal issuing:

ipkg <options (and say what options!)> <.ipk file>

After doing this you may have a decent enough Zaurus."

Now THAT IS A FRIGGIN ANSWER!!!

So if  you guys don't  know the answer please be so kind as to point me to a section of this forum where I can get a real answer.  I see no NEWBIE section either.  The installation instructions at the OZ site don't even go past the instructions on how to flash the software, and I know that.

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2005, 02:54:59 pm »
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OK, I'll have to take this up again because I got no real answers here.  Telling me to use ipkg is really no answer at all and defeats what a forum is for. The answer I would expect from all you experienced, over a thousand post people would be somewhat along these lines:

"If you flash your SL6000 with gpe and the latest 3.5.3 version you will be left with an almost unusable Zaurus.  To get it up to par with Opie or the Sharp ROM or Zynergy, you need to install the following packages:

- the following lib ipks...
- package such and such
- package bla bla bla....
...etc.

Do so using ipkg from a terminal issuing:

ipkg <options (and say what options!)> <.ipk file>

After doing this you may have a decent enough Zaurus."

Now THAT IS A FRIGGIN ANSWER!!!

So if  you guys don't  know the answer please be so kind as to point me to a section of this forum where I can get a real answer.  I see no NEWBIE section either.  The installation instructions at the OZ site don't even go past the instructions on how to flash the software, and I know that.
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case in point.

The commandline will tell you what the dependencies needed are. to an extent it is still up to you (especially in gpe) to look in the feed repositories to find the file, and make sure, by editing /etc/ipkg.conf that the "subfeed" is lited properly.

for example, fro the case above.
 you try:
<ipkg -d sd install gpe-filemanager>  
(-d = destination and sd is the sd card btw)

ipkg basically tells you no, it won't do that because it can't find a file.

You look in the feeds (this is much easier if you mirror them btw)  and find that the file is in feed/gnome

you fire up your editor --my favorite is nano-- and say

<nano /etc/ipkg.conf>

and add the line:

src gnome [a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/gnome]http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/gnome[/url]

then do:
<ipkg update>
(to update your packages list)

and back to installing filemanager, which will now install just fine.

On a different note entirely --maybe this should be posted elsewhere?
the partitions in oz (on the 6k at least) aren't really optimal, are they?
Wouldn't it be better to work along the lines guylhem is and do 2 nand partitions?--diagnostic/enmergency and /  then maybe consider enabling a /home that might live on a flash card?  Gpe particularly would benefit from 57 megs of "program space"
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2005, 09:03:46 pm »
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OK, I'll have to take this up again because I got no real answers here.  Telling me to use ipkg is really no answer at all and defeats what a forum is for. The answer I would expect from all you experienced, over a thousand post people would be somewhat along these lines:

"If you flash your SL6000 with gpe and the latest 3.5.3 version you will be left with an almost unusable Zaurus.  To get it up to par with Opie or the Sharp ROM or Zynergy, you need to install the following packages:

- the following lib ipks...
- package such and such
- package bla bla bla....
...etc.

Do so using ipkg from a terminal issuing:

ipkg <options (and say what options!)> <.ipk file>

After doing this you may have a decent enough Zaurus."

Now THAT IS A FRIGGIN ANSWER!!!

So if  you guys don't  know the answer please be so kind as to point me to a section of this forum where I can get a real answer.  I see no NEWBIE section either.  The installation instructions at the OZ site don't even go past the instructions on how to flash the software, and I know that.
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The answer is written quite plainly in the release notes for OZ 3.5.3. If you don't like it, help us work on the solution - complaining that the help people provide in their spare time isn't to your liking, doesn't help. Surprisingly enough.

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2005, 09:59:11 am »
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On a different note entirely --maybe this should be posted elsewhere?
the partitions in oz (on the 6k at least) aren't really optimal, are they?
Wouldn't it be better to work along the lines guylhem is and do 2 nand partitions?--diagnostic/enmergency and /  then maybe consider enabling a /home that might live on a flash card?  Gpe particularly would benefit from 57 megs of "program space"
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Although it would be very handy (my home partition big 7megs larger as /, for some bullshit sharp reason), I'm not confortable with poking at flash and mtd partitions and I'm even less comfortable with letting "newbies" doing that. We'll ship unionfs with the OE-baked distros Real Soon™, so partitioning will be less of a problem.
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