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« on: May 12, 2005, 04:01:08 pm »
I got a friend in Japan and ability to purchase either handheld.
I really like the blackness and the 128megs of ram of the c1000.
But, of course, the 4gb hdd is enticing.

Has anyone found 64megs to be a limitation? I remember on my sl-5500 I used to always run out of memory so a little concerned by soo little.

I can always use a solid state 2gb SD card, since no SDIO support exists correct?
But then it'd be much much slower then a real hdd...

I'd like opinions from some owners, especially if anyone has both, and what their thoughts are.
I will be using ssh and opera the most, plus I'd like to do VoIP since I recently got employed at a VoIP company, mainly getting connectivity from WiFi or Bluetooth.

If I get a c3000, anyone wanna sell me a black casing?

Thanks in advance

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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2005, 04:34:35 pm »
Hi,

I just went through the same decision-making process (I also have a 5500).  I went with the C1000:

 * Cheaper
 * I thought the battery life of the C1000 would be better (no proof to back that up)
 * I don't use my Zaurus for music or large videos
 * I've heard that the hard drive seems sluggish, but I've never used it.
 * I figured the C1000 would be easier to port rom images to because its setup matches most other devices (i.e., don't have to worry about partitions, etc...)  of course, the OZ guys rock and released a 3.5.3 image for both the C1000 and C3000 at the same time.

I have a 512mb SD card that's about half-full mainly because I installed pocketworkstation on it.  I haven't found the memory size to be any sort of limitation yet at all... overall i'm quite happy with my C1k.

There are a few threads in the forum that talk about C1k vs. C3k, too.  I think you'll be pleased with either device.

jason

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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2005, 05:13:11 pm »
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I got a friend in Japan and ability to purchase either handheld.
I really like the blackness and the 128megs of ram of the c1000.
But, of course, the 4gb hdd is enticing.

Has anyone found 64megs to be a limitation? I remember on my sl-5500 I used to always run out of memory so a little concerned by soo little.

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The C1000 has 64 mb ram, exactly the same as the C3000 (and every other recent Zaurus)

The C1000 has 128mb flash, and the C3000 has the 4gb hard-drive instead of a flash.
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2005, 05:30:52 pm »
If money isn't an issue I'd go with the 3000, especially if you are a wifi user.  It is very nice to have 4gb of space for swap, downloads, etc.
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2005, 06:22:48 pm »
Hi Jason,

I am a recent owner of the SLC3000, and a complete novice when it comes to the Linux OS, although very familiar with the windows pocket pc environment.  In particular, I need to be able to synchronize my outlook contacts, calendar, tasks and notes to this unit.  First the PIM program on this unit is really poor.  Second, I have yet to really be able to successfully synchronize.  I either get a message stating there's an incorrect value and the synchronization stops, or, most recently and more often, I seem to get a PC link error when attempting to synchronize -- and when checking in the device manager of the host computer, I no longer see either driver for the unit, even though I know I installed them both -- because I was able to communicate at one time previously in order to synchronize.
You mentioned something about the OZ 3.53 image file.  What is this and does this fix my problem?  Also, I am not able to use my Socket Low Power WLAN CF wireless card because I can't seem to get the unit to recognize the card.  Could you possibly help me with all this?  I'm frustrated by it all -- so much so, that I'm thinking seriously that if I can't get my issues with this unit resolved, then I will either return to using my IPAQ 4705 pocket pc or try to find a way of reformating or repartitioning the SLC3000 and loading the pocket pc operating system in the Sharp unit so I can instead use the PPC environment and sync using active sync.
Thanks.
Jenn

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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2005, 07:52:23 pm »
Jenn,

Hang in there, you should be able to get your problems (at least most, if not all) solved with the help of the group here...REALLY...

However, for that you should start a new thread, instead of hijacking this one....  

BTW, you're not going to get PocketPC on a Z....but you should be able to sync with a PC...

In the meantime....

As for PIM, remember the C3000 is a Japan market unit, never intended for use outside of Japan...but there are several other very good options....either the free Ka/Pi apps or theKompany's, tkcAddressbook and/or tkcCalendar apps...

NOW, back to this thread, C1K vs C3K....

Meshuga,

You can't go wrong with either one, but if you can afford it, go for the C3K.

If not, get the C1K. Both are very GOOD units....

I've had C760, then C860, and now C3000 and the C3000 is GREAT!

Just put Cacko3K beta 1 ROM on mine and it's superb (and it's just the beta!)!

Also, recently put X/Qt/Debian on my C3000 and it works really well...like having 2 Z's at once...since you can switch back and forth between Sharp Qtopia environment and X/Qt/Debian without rebooting!

HTH,

Mark

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Hi Jason,

I am a recent owner of the SLC3000, and a complete novice when it comes to the Linux OS, although very familiar with the windows pocket pc environment.  In particular, I need to be able to synchronize my outlook contacts, calendar, tasks and notes to this unit.  First the PIM program on this unit is really poor.  Second, I have yet to really be able to successfully synchronize.  I either get a message stating there's an incorrect value and the synchronization stops, or, most recently and more often, I seem to get a PC link error when attempting to synchronize -- and when checking in the device manager of the host computer, I no longer see either driver for the unit, even though I know I installed them both -- because I was able to communicate at one time previously in order to synchronize.
You mentioned something about the OZ 3.53 image file.  What is this and does this fix my problem?  Also, I am not able to use my Socket Low Power WLAN CF wireless card because I can't seem to get the unit to recognize the card.  Could you possibly help me with all this?  I'm frustrated by it all -- so much so, that I'm thinking seriously that if I can't get my issues with this unit resolved, then I will either return to using my IPAQ 4705 pocket pc or try to find a way of reformating or repartitioning the SLC3000 and loading the pocket pc operating system in the Sharp unit so I can instead use the PPC environment and sync using active sync.
Thanks.
Jenn
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2005, 07:56:31 pm »
Hi Jenn,

Unfortunately, it sounds like you picked the wrong device for your usage.  My synchronization is different because I've replaced the Sharp installation with a custom one that I created based on the OpenZaurus Opie image.  I basically got rid of the Opie PIM apps and replaced them with KO/pi and KA/pi which I also run on my linux desktop.  Synchronization between these apps is a piece of cake since it's built-in to the application and I connect over wifi.

As for the Socket wifi card -- I also have one of these but it doesn't seem to work with my OZ 3.5.3 install... however, my linksys wifi card worked out of the box, so I haven't looked into what's going on with the Socket  (the socket card works fine with my 5500 running OZ 3.5.2).

And to make things even worse for you -- there isn't a PocketPC image that you can flash onto your C3000.  I'm sorry you're having so many issues with you C3k -- it really is a nice machine, but might not be a good fit for you unless you're ready for some (possibly frustrating) hacking

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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2005, 06:19:21 pm »
Thanks everyone for the responses.
So does SDIO work?
Nobody finds the 64megs of ram to be limiting, even if they got, say, a mp3, ssh and webbrowsing open?

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Jenn,

Hang in there, you should be able to get your problems (at least most, if not all) solved with the help of the group here...REALLY...

However, for that you should start a new thread, instead of hijacking this one....  

BTW, you're not going to get PocketPC on a Z....but you should be able to sync with a PC...

In the meantime....

As for PIM, remember the C3000 is a Japan market unit, never intended for use outside of Japan...but there are several other very good options....either the free Ka/Pi apps or theKompany's, tkcAddressbook and/or tkcCalendar apps...

NOW, back to this thread, C1K vs C3K....

Meshuga,

You can't go wrong with either one, but if you can afford it, go for the C3K.

If not, get the C1K. Both are very GOOD units....

I've had C760, then C860, and now C3000 and the C3000 is GREAT!

Just put Cacko3K beta 1 ROM on mine and it's superb (and it's just the beta!)!

Also, recently put X/Qt/Debian on my C3000 and it works really well...like having 2 Z's at once...since you can switch back and forth between Sharp Qtopia environment and X/Qt/Debian without rebooting!

HTH,

Mark

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Hi Jason,

I am a recent owner of the SLC3000, and a complete novice when it comes to the Linux OS, although very familiar with the windows pocket pc environment.  In particular, I need to be able to synchronize my outlook contacts, calendar, tasks and notes to this unit.  First the PIM program on this unit is really poor.  Second, I have yet to really be able to successfully synchronize.  I either get a message stating there's an incorrect value and the synchronization stops, or, most recently and more often, I seem to get a PC link error when attempting to synchronize -- and when checking in the device manager of the host computer, I no longer see either driver for the unit, even though I know I installed them both -- because I was able to communicate at one time previously in order to synchronize.
You mentioned something about the OZ 3.53 image file.  What is this and does this fix my problem?  Also, I am not able to use my Socket Low Power WLAN CF wireless card because I can't seem to get the unit to recognize the card.  Could you possibly help me with all this?  I'm frustrated by it all -- so much so, that I'm thinking seriously that if I can't get my issues with this unit resolved, then I will either return to using my IPAQ 4705 pocket pc or try to find a way of reformating or repartitioning the SLC3000 and loading the pocket pc operating system in the Sharp unit so I can instead use the PPC environment and sync using active sync.
Thanks.
Jenn

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2005, 08:05:59 pm »
HELP!!!

i cant take it anymore.......

i have a problem i need a c1000 now and i want it tomorrow

i have 550 dollars and i wanna know were i can get one as soon as possible.

THis stuff is like krack.

if someone is in los angeles, man ill meet you somewere and take it off yourhands as soon as possible but must be in mint condition!
or should i wait for the c31000  another q is.........are the softwaresinterchangable between these units?
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2005, 09:52:28 pm »
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As for PIM, remember the C3000 is a Japan market unit, never intended for use outside of Japan...but there are several other very good options....either the free Ka/Pi apps or theKompany's, tkcAddressbook and/or tkcCalendar apps...
Keep in mind that theKompany's addressbook and calendar do NOT sync with anything more recent than a 5500.  If you're OK with just having your contact and calendar info just on your Z, then you'll be fine - they're decent apps in and of themselves, just that the data isn't all that portable.

If data sync in important, it's either (to my knowledge) the built-in apps that'll sync with Windows/Outlook, or KDEPimPi, which runs on both Windows and Linux.

Personally, I use KDEPimPi.

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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2005, 04:12:11 am »
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Hi Jason,

I am a recent owner of the SLC3000, and a complete novice when it comes to the Linux OS, although very familiar with the windows pocket pc environment.  In particular, I need to be able to synchronize my outlook contacts, calendar, tasks and notes to this unit.  First the PIM program on this unit is really poor.  Second, I have yet to really be able to successfully synchronize.  I either get a message stating there's an incorrect value and the synchronization stops, or, most recently and more often, I seem to get a PC link error when attempting to synchronize -- and when checking in the device manager of the host computer, I no longer see either driver for the unit, even though I know I installed them both -- because I was able to communicate at one time previously in order to synchronize.
You mentioned something about the OZ 3.53 image file.  What is this and does this fix my problem?  Also, I am not able to use my Socket Low Power WLAN CF wireless card because I can't seem to get the unit to recognize the card.  Could you possibly help me with all this?  I'm frustrated by it all -- so much so, that I'm thinking seriously that if I can't get my issues with this unit resolved, then I will either return to using my IPAQ 4705 pocket pc or try to find a way of reformating or repartitioning the SLC3000 and loading the pocket pc operating system in the Sharp unit so I can instead use the PPC environment and sync using active sync.
Thanks.
Jenn
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hey dont give up yet!!!

openzaurus 3.5.3 is located at openzaurus.org... the c3000 version is quite new and i havent tried it yet, so cant say how good or bad it is...

for syncing, i remember reading that the SL 6000 english opie desktop works ok with the c3000... this can be downloaded from one of sharp's sites..

for your card, a lot of people have that card and it seems to work ok... are you 100% sure the card is not faulty? if not, then in terminal, type "cardctl ident" to see what card it is recognised... once you have the manufacturer id (manfid) and card it you can enter it into /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng.conf

the next time you insert your card, it'll identify the id and load the correct driver for it.

you should post a new thread detailing your problems and we can all help to make it work!!
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