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« on: May 24, 2005, 06:03:46 pm »
Hi

I just recieved my sl-6000l     -  what a nice machine. The guy I bought it from had a clean install of OZ 3.5.3+opie put onto the internal ramdisk for me. Thats all nice, but I do experence alot of things that puzzles me. Are they features or faults?

Here they come:


* Console font size:
The console (the built-in Opie console) font size cannot be changed.
I do:
"Configure profiles" -> choose "default" -> click "edit" -> pick the slide named "terminal" -> click on the fonts -> changes size to "12" -> click "OK" in the top corner of the window
Nothing happens, and restarting the console (or Linux for that matter) doesn't help. The font size is still very small 7 dots...  


*package installation
I cannot install packages via Opies package manager.  
I do:
open the "package manager" -> click "actions" -> click "install local packages" -> inserts the path for the .ipk package -> clicks enter -> screen jumps back to the list of installed packages and nothing happens.
I have tried the "configurator" ("actions" -> "configure" -> "options" -> and then choose the path for my package, and then only supply the package name when trying to install the package, but it didn't make any difference.
It's just a simple game I'm trying to install. I have tried with other .ipk's as well. Does a console-edition of the package-installer exist? Maybe such a one would work..


*hardbuttons
the 7 upper hardbuttons (with thumboard closed) doesn't invoke anything, and I can't make the "buttons" app map them. This applications tells me that they are mapped (it shows which apps/functions they ought to invoke), but gives no option of remapping - it tells me to "press or hold the button you want to remap", but doing so has no effect. I have tried clicking the screen icons at the same time, but it doesn't help. Doesn't seem like theres anything clickable on the app part of the screen.


*background image
Where can one change this?


A curiosity:
fdisk says /dev/hda1 is 32 mb, and has 4 partitions - two of which it claims "has different physical/logical beginnings" and two of which it claims "does not end on cylinder boundary". Is my internal ramdisk cursed in some way?
and where's my 32 mb /home partition?? Fdisk doesn't mention this one..    


In general, it would be soo nice with som OZ documentation other than a few specialised howtos and a forum search function. Not that I don't appreciate peoples volunteerily efforts.


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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2005, 01:30:31 am »
sounds like a reflash and an fdisk of the card might be in order. Those don't sound like OZ issues (though admittedly I mess more with gpe;
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2005, 01:56:02 am »
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sounds like a reflash and an fdisk of the card might be in order. Those don't sound like OZ issues (though admittedly I mess more with gpe;
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Do you know any guides for doing so?
I wouldn't like to end up having a brick...


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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2005, 02:05:51 am »
go to openzaurus .org

also openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/sl6000 (or whatever they call the 6k dir)

read the readme. it should be pretty straightforward
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2005, 06:24:05 am »
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go to openzaurus .org

also openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/sl6000 (or whatever they call the 6k dir)

read the readme. it should be pretty straightforward
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I have now done so (without the fdisking) and nothing is changed. It has made an update, but the problems (and my old files) are still there.

I guess I will have to do the fdisk thing. Theres only one problem: Now, fdisk doesn't work at all. Typing:

fdisk -l /dev/hda

reveals nothing but a new command promt. According to [a href=\"http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/fdisk.8.html]http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/fdisk.8.html[/url] it ought a show me the partition tables for the drive.

With no information about my drive, I guess it will be hard to repartition it.


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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2005, 06:32:41 am »
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A curiosity:
fdisk says /dev/hda1 is 32 mb, and has 4 partitions - two of which it claims "has different physical/logical beginnings" and two of which it claims "does not end on cylinder boundary". Is my internal ramdisk cursed in some way?
and where's my 32 mb /home partition?? Fdisk doesn't mention this one..   
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hda1 is your cf card, fdisk can't handle mtd devices (the internal flash). Do a 'cat /proc/mtd' to see what partitions are available.
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2005, 07:58:51 am »
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hda1 is your cf card, fdisk can't handle mtd devices (the internal flash). Do a 'cat /proc/mtd' to see what partitions are available.
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Thanks for the tip
This command yields the following output:

dev:         size:                 erasesize:        name:
mtd0:       006a0000        00020000       "Filesystem"
mtd1:       00700000        00004000       "smf"
mtd2:       01c00000        00004000       "root"
mtd3:       01d00000        00004000       "home"

Is this as it should be? Anything unnormal?

And now for the exiting part:

If it's not as it should be: How do I delete all partitions and create 2 new ones? ( a 32 mb /   and a 32 mb /home  )

If it is as it should be: How do I delete the content of /   and /home so I can do a truly clean reinstall?


I am very thankfull for your willingness to help me with this


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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2005, 08:09:38 am »
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hda1 is your cf card, fdisk can't handle mtd devices (the internal flash). Do a 'cat /proc/mtd' to see what partitions are available.
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Thanks for the tip
This command yields the following output:

dev:         size:                 erasesize:        name:
mtd0:       006a0000        00020000       "Filesystem"
mtd1:       00700000        00004000       "smf"
mtd2:       01c00000        00004000       "root"
mtd3:       01d00000        00004000       "home"

Is this as it should be? Anything unnormal?

And now for the exiting part:

If it's not as it should be: How do I delete all partitions and create 2 new ones? ( a 32 mb /   and a 32 mb /home  )

If it is as it should be: How do I delete the content of /   and /home so I can do a truly clean reinstall?
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When you flash an OZ image (or one of the sharpclones) it will erase / . You can mount /home by doing 'mount /dev/mtd3 /home' (or mtdblock3, but you get the idea) and to an rm -rf to wipe it. Manually messing with flashpartitions is something to do with care, since you could erase the secondstage bootloader. I'm not sure if the 6k has a ROM (yes, a real Read Only part) to recover from accidental wiping.
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2005, 08:20:09 am »
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When you flash an OZ image (or one of the sharpclones) it will erase / .[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=81415\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

That's very bad news. As my reflashing (and thus total eraze) of the / didn't help anything, it seems that I am stuck with the weird behavior of OZ+Opie that I experience.
I do wonder how it can be that my clean install is buggy, in opposition to what seems to be the case for all other people having a clean OZ
I simply cannot understand that.

I guess I will have to try another ROM image - I could go try the GPE GUI. (though it has fewer compatible apps, as far as I know..)


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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2005, 09:45:57 am »
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When you flash an OZ image (or one of the sharpclones) it will erase / .[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=81415\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

That's very bad news. As my reflashing (and thus total eraze) of the / didn't help anything, it seems that I am stuck with the weird behavior of OZ+Opie that I experience.
I do wonder how it can be that my clean install is buggy, in opposition to what seems to be the case for all other people having a clean OZ
I simply cannot understand that.

I guess I will have to try another ROM image - I could go try the GPE GUI. (though it has fewer compatible apps, as far as I know..)
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Opie does store it's settings in the homedir, so weird behaviour probably won't go away with just erasing / . As a matter of compatible apps in GPE: since it uses X instead of QT/e virtually any 'desktop' app should run, once it has been crosscompiled. OZ/GPE, pocketworkstation and pdaXrom (no, that's not a Read Only image) have proven that in the past.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2005, 06:56:46 am »
It seems GPE works okay, so I think I will stick with that.

I thank you all for your help - it was very kindfull of you.


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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2005, 06:59:26 am »
By the way - are the upper 7 hardbuttons supposed to work out of the box with GPE? I hope not...


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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2005, 09:04:09 am »
Suk..

It seems to mee that both Opie and GPE are like alpha-releases. GPE is very buggy too. Crashes and does unexpected things. Now it won't boot (after login, it shows a 240x140 pixel white field on the center of the screen, and thats it), and all I did was trying out some handwriting... On my former GPE-installation (that is, 30 minutes ago), it wouldn't let me log in after a reboot (not because of wrong password - it just wouldn't startup X). Arrgh!!!!

This is hopeless


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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2005, 11:58:29 am »
try all the roms available and see what you like

         guylhem rom
         Qtopia 2.1
          pdaXrom
in no particular order.

atm I'm using pdaX and like it very much--but guylhem's is flexible, fast  and has really terrific harware support/software comptability--the most 6k dedicated of the bunch

Qtopia 2.1 is the newest from trolltech..(the sharprom is Qtopia 1.5, opie is supposedly Qtopia 1.7 done on a newer compiler)  very pretty, snappy works well and some cool features (like fullscreen handwriting)

keep an eye on OZ, though. I haven't been able to stick with their 6k releases either, but it is an evolving system based on some good ideas--eventually there will be a release you'll like


and, of course sharprom if you must
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2005, 02:44:16 pm »
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Qtopia 2.1 is the newest from trolltech..(the sharprom is Qtopia 1.5, opie is supposedly Qtopia 1.7 done on a newer compiler)  very pretty, snappy works well and some cool features (like fullscreen handwriting)

Actually no, Opie like the Sharp software is derived from Qtopia 1.4 and developed independantly with occaisional merges of useful code from newer Qtopia releases. Also, as far as I know opie has no support for full screen handwriting recognition.

  greg