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« Last Edit: August 31, 2005, 08:39:57 am by speculatrix »
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2005, 01:09:44 pm »
Is it just me, or does anyone else lose all interest the moment they see that it runs Windows?

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2005, 01:21:56 pm »
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Is it just me, or does anyone else lose all interest the moment they see that it runs Windows?
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well, true, it's a sad waste of good hardware.. but, inevitably, someone will try and get linux running on it. WinCE will, after all, make the device useful as a boot-loader if nothing else!!!

the good news is that, being a mobile phone, it will be subsidised by a few cellcos.. and we'll have a laugh at their attempts to DRM it and prevent third party applications running.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2005, 03:25:52 pm »
well, if it sells at about $1,100 as I read somewhere (free, non-operator locked), then I also lose interest ...
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2005, 04:15:01 pm »
Maybe you know something that I don't, but I would doubt a linux port would ever happen without tmobile's help.  How many other pda's were ported let alone pda/cellphone/gprs?  HP/IPAQ gave help to the familiar project AFAIK


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well, true, it's a sad waste of good hardware.. but, inevitably, someone will try and get linux running on it. WinCE will, after all, make the device useful as a boot-loader if nothing else!!!

the good news is that, being a mobile phone, it will be subsidised by a few cellcos.. and we'll have a laugh at their attempts to DRM it and prevent third party applications running.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2005, 04:21:38 pm »
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well, if it sells at about $1,100 as I read somewhere (free, non-operator locked), then I also lose interest ...
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these things are always hideously overpriced when they first appear on the market... wait for the initial rush to subside before jumping in.

doubtless the nokia tablet will begin to appear at a nice price sometime.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2005, 04:12:22 am »
430 euro with subscription is not so much. I can have c1000 for it maybe ... Only if it has dual boot linux, I'd go for it :-). But anyway it is great piece of hardware. Sharp could look at that device and create something similar with SL c5000??? device
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2005, 08:39:24 am »
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/31/t-...hips_universal/

"The telco said it will charge €500 (£342/$611) for the device and a two-year contract for its Relax 100 tariff. With BusinessRelax 100 tariff, the price falls to €431 (£295/$527)."
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2005, 07:41:07 pm »
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Maybe you know something that I don't, but I would doubt a linux port would ever happen without tmobile's help.  How many other pda's were ported let alone pda/cellphone/gprs?  HP/IPAQ gave help to the familiar project AFAIK


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well, true, it's a sad waste of good hardware.. but, inevitably, someone will try and get linux running on it. WinCE will, after all, make the device useful as a boot-loader if nothing else!!!

the good news is that, being a mobile phone, it will be subsidised by a few cellcos.. and we'll have a laugh at their attempts to DRM it and prevent third party applications running.
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Lets see, all Dell Axims now have at least the kernel booting, and they have no help from Dell/HTC. There's also several Toshibas with fully working distros, and I'm pretty sure the Toshiba didn't help in anyway. No open-source GPRS, afaik, currently(Motorola's Linux powered phones have a closed-source module for it). However, with a savant working on it and/or diligence as part of a team to crack it, it can be done. Then there's always the possibliity of a wrapper for use of the Windows CE driver. (ala NTFS write and NDIS wireless)

Having full specs and support certainly helps in porting Linux to a device, but is not absolutely required.

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2005, 08:28:31 pm »
wouldnt touch this with a 10 foot poll!

even when you purchase...money still goes to microsoft regardless

i say forget about it!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 05:08:03 am »
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Is it just me, or does anyone else lose all interest the moment they see that it runs Windows?
Point me to a running Linux phone with a keyboard and a VGA screen?

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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2005, 05:17:02 am »
I was wondering if we could persuade Trolltech to talk to HTC and get them to port their trolltech rom to it? What would it take to get HTC to listen to a smaller group of people, or do you think they'll have signed a "WinCE only" deal with Microsoft?
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2005, 06:10:14 am »
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I was wondering if we could persuade Trolltech to talk to HTC and get them to port their trolltech rom to it? What would it take to get HTC to listen to a smaller group of people, or do you think they'll have signed a "WinCE only" deal with Microsoft?
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You are probably more likely to convince sharp to release new clamshell zaurus phone with all this connectivity included plus a much better screen (from 6000). Not much porting would be reqired. But of course sharp does not listen to what customers want so even though this is somewhat more likely I would not hold my breath waiting for it.

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2005, 03:51:29 pm »
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Is it just me, or does anyone else lose all interest the moment they see that it runs Windows?
Point me to a running Linux phone with a keyboard and a VGA screen?
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No kidding. The reflexive dismissal of anything WinCE is pretty asinine, especially when it can do some things way better than our beloved Z's (e.g. mapping programs, mindmapping programs, etc.)
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2005, 04:12:13 pm »
The screen and keyboard look impressive and it looks slimmer than the Z

I have always wished the Z had keys more like those on a psion 5 and those do look more like that.
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