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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2005, 06:50:48 am »
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[I'm using the msmtp-enqueue and msmtp-runqueue scripts to use pine (thanks DrWowe) as an offline reader. [div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=106932\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Sleepy,

Do you use the msmtp-* scripts to "compose mails offline" or as an "offline mail reader" as you mentioned above?

After some very minor tweaking I am able to compose mail with pine, offline and send immediately if online (or later by running the msmtp-runqueue script manually).

I just wanted to be sure I am not missing the "offline mail reader" component of these scripts before I delve into the mail reading side of my mail setup.

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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2005, 08:06:42 am »
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2005, 09:37:26 am »
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[I'm using the msmtp-enqueue and msmtp-runqueue scripts to use pine (thanks DrWowe) as an offline reader. [div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=106932\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Sleepy,

Do you use the msmtp-* scripts to "compose mails offline" or as an "offline mail reader" as you mentioned above?

After some very minor tweaking I am able to compose mail with pine, offline and send immediately if online (or later by running the msmtp-runqueue script manually).

I just wanted to be sure I am not missing the "offline mail reader" component of these scripts before I delve into the mail reading side of my mail setup.

Thanks
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Sorry, my bad. I've got pretty much the same setup as you from the sound of things.

Speaking of my bads, the fetchmail-6.2.5 package doesn't have SSL support, as revealed by a fetchmail -V, despite the configure script indicating that it would. So, I've packaged up the most recent fetchmail-6.3.1 with SSL (I promise) and NLS.

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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2006, 06:12:15 am »
Thanks sleepy & DrWowe!

I've downloaded pine_4.64_SSL_SharpROM.tar.gz  from here and unzipped it to get pico, pine, and pilot.

But where the heck do I put them for installation?

Also, are there separate config or rc files needed for pine?  I had an awful time putting together  my own msmtprc, fetchmailrc etc and would appreciate link(s) to suitable rc templates for pine if any are needed.

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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2006, 05:11:33 pm »
Hello All!

Figured out I could leave  pico, pine and pilot on my SD card and put symlinks to the SD card from /home/QtPalmtop/bin.  And, pine created it's own empty /home/root/.pinerc file.

However, can't get the commands requiring ^ to work with either my sl5500 hardware or on-screen keyboards, other than ^z, ^Z, ^c, ^C,  ^x, ^X, ^V and ^v on the hardware keyboard.

Can that get fixed?  What am I missing?

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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2006, 04:30:33 am »
so how would one set this up? script for getting and sending email(offline then sync when going "online"), then use mutt or pine to read it and write emails? I really hate the existing email gui type programs.
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2006, 09:25:57 am »
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so how would one set this up? script for getting and sending email(offline then sync when going "online"), then use mutt or pine to read it and write emails? I really hate the existing email gui type programs.
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I personally gave up trying to use pine because of the ergonomic issues (my thumb ain't big enough to hit the shift & control simultaneously, and pine doesn't recognize the shift key on the rt side of my keyboard).

But Bam, have you looked at the fetchmailrc file to see if there is a frequency or polling option you can set there?

Would trying leaving the console open all the time and letting fetchmail run as a background process work, assuming it has the polling interval set however you like it?
 
We also have an 'at' command instead of the 'cron' command, at least  on ROM 2.38, which can be used to schedule jobs in advance, but I don't know how to get it to run from a script.
 
You mention looking for projects in your signature.  Would a "How to Install & Configure Pine, Fetchmail, Procmail, and Msmtp for the Zaurus" suit your fancy?
 
As I recall, all the pieces create their own run control, *rc,  files but a list of recommended configuration tweaks
for the Zaurus would be an asset for the community.

For someone with no experience with these, it's pretty hard to parse through all the documentation, and installation
shouldn't be the painful and complex time-consuming process that it has been for folks like me.
 
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2006, 11:31:25 am »
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so how would one set this up? script for getting and sending email(offline then sync when going "online"), then use mutt or pine to read it and write emails? I really hate the existing email gui type programs.
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You got it right.
You run the OfflineIMAP script when you are on-line and it sync's what you have on your Z with your IMAP account, then you use an application (I know Mutt works, but not sure about Pine) that can read the mail to work with it. I set up sendmail (I think) so that I could send email from my Zaurus too.
I've just reflashed my Z so I'll be documenting all of this soon.
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2006, 02:41:08 pm »
you've got sendmail?!?!  I've been looking all over for an mtu.  Where did you get it?
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2006, 05:23:00 pm »
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you've got sendmail?!?!  I've been looking all over for an mtu.  Where did you get it?
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I don't recall.
But I have to find it again now that I've reflashed.
And that's why i'm going to start doumenting things. *wink*
Let me know if you find it.
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2006, 02:12:10 am »
well fetchmail works great, now I need to get procmail to work like it is supposed to...then off to figure out pine. And what is msmtp?
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2006, 04:09:09 pm »
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well fetchmail works great, now I need to get procmail to work like it is supposed to...then off to figure out pine. And what is msmtp?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=122951\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
That might have been what I used to send mail. Is it in a feed somewhere? I think I found what I used in a feed.
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2006, 01:34:19 am »
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what is msmtp?
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That might have been what I used to send mail. Is it in a feed somewhere? I think I found what I used in a feed.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=123092\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

msmtp was written as alternative for sendmail, for use with clients like mutt and pine.   I read somewhere that the first 'm' in msmtp stands for mutt.
It's home page is at
 [a href=\"http://msmtp.sourceforge.net]http://msmtp.sourceforge.net[/url]
and you can find a link to the zaurus-version on the first page of the current oesf thread.

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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2006, 05:07:36 am »
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what is msmtp?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
That might have been what I used to send mail. Is it in a feed somewhere? I think I found what I used in a feed.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=123092\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

msmtp was written as alternative for sendmail, for use with clients like mutt and pine.   I read somewhere that the first 'm' in msmtp stands for mutt.
It's home page is at
 [a href=\"http://msmtp.sourceforge.net]http://msmtp.sourceforge.net[/url]
and you can find a link to the zaurus-version on the first page of the current oesf thread.

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I also use msmtp with its offline support scripts. It works very well.
THe only downside is (but that's problably always the case when using mutt with an offline smtp tool) that when you "sent" a message in mutt and it is sent to the offline queue, you cannot edit that message anymore within mutt before sending.
Mutt saves a copy of it in the sent folder (if you configure it to do so) but the actually sent message is somewhere else. Hence if you need to nedit before sending you need to edit a file in the outgoing queue AND the copy in mutt if you want the sent folder to reflect exactly what you have really sent.

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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2006, 12:56:53 am »
finally got fetchmail, procmail and pine to work well together. now I need to get msmtp to work.
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