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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2005, 01:41:43 pm »
It will be perfect if this can be included into the KDE 3.5 package for pdaX:    

http://basket.kde.org/
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2005, 04:54:16 pm »
juste one question: how do you intstall those window manager??

is there any ipkg on pdaxrom's feed?

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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2005, 05:37:07 pm »
Yes, many of them are already available as ipk.  They are either in the feeds or in this forum (not very hard to search actually).  Have fun.  

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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2005, 06:11:20 am »
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Yes, many of them are already available as ipk.  They are either in the feeds or in this forum (not very hard to search actually).  Have fun. 
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oki thx... and there is some "hard" manipulation to make or just install the ipk and select the windows manager on login screen??

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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2005, 06:41:47 am »
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Yes, many of them are already available as ipk.  They are either in the feeds or in this forum (not very hard to search actually).  Have fun. 
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oki thx... and there is some "hard" manipulation to make or just install the ipk and select the windows manager on login screen??

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You can simply take one flavor as a starting point, which would give you an idea of how a wm works (such as editing the startup scripts and customizing the desktop).  Highly recommended is Xfce4 and Chero has written a terrrific user guide here:
[a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/Chero/xfce4-rox-howto/]http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/Chero/xfce4-rox-howto/[/url]

For me I'm using WindowMaker, and iamphet has also done a fantastic job to compile it with some valuable information here: https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16370&st=0

Every user has a different taste so having more choices is always a nice thing.  
« Last Edit: December 27, 2005, 06:42:01 am by ZDevil »

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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2005, 07:07:31 am »
thx a lot for all information
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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2005, 07:15:42 am »
Any ipks for KDE 3.5?
 
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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2005, 08:20:57 am »
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Any ipks for KDE 3.5?
 
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I have seen a thread yesterday about kde... I know that sashz is porting kde for pdaxrom...
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2005, 04:16:25 pm »
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Will it work w/ qbedic?  3.4's qtlibs wouldn't let qbedic open....  Otherwise i'd have used it a lot more.
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Sorry for offtopic, but what's exactly the problem with qbedic? I'm using it for a few months under pdaXrom rc11 ...

albertr@c1000:~$ ldd /usr/bin/qbedic
        libqt-mt.so.3 => /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0x4001e000)
        libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x406a1000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40780000)
        libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x4082f000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40840000)
        libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40962000)
        libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x40979000)
        libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x409b5000)
        libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x409c4000)
        libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x409cf000)
        libXft.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x409df000)
        libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x409f7000)
        libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x40a6a000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40a9a000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40ab0000)
        libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40b76000)
        libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40b86000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40ba3000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x40bad000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
        libexpat.so.0 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x40bcc000)
albertr@c1000:~$

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My experience had been that when I load kde, it changes which qt libs are loaded.. and the ones in kde 3.4 wouldn't run qbedic. I didn't look at it too much... just dropped kde, and all is well.
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2005, 04:18:15 pm »
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It will be perfect if this can be included into the KDE 3.5 package for pdaX:   

http://basket.kde.org/
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That could be really amazing. Off to try it on my desktop
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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2005, 08:05:54 am »
KDE 3.5 is in the new 1.1.0 Beta feeds now!   Awesome.  
« Last Edit: December 29, 2005, 08:06:17 am by ZDevil »

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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2005, 09:28:19 am »
LOL! I go try this!
« Last Edit: December 29, 2005, 10:07:32 am by anunakin »
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« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2005, 11:04:12 am »
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It will be perfect if this can be included into the KDE 3.5 package for pdaX:   

http://basket.kde.org/
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That could be really amazing. Off to try it on my desktop
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Here are three video demos from the official site:
[a href=\"http://basket.kde.org/developement/basket_mic_video2.mpeg]http://basket.kde.org/developement/basket_mic_video2.mpeg[/url]
http://basket.kde.org/developement/basket_mic_video1.mpeg
http://basket.kde.org/demo/demo-basket-fr.mpeg

It will the super killer app if it can run smoothly on Z (and with KDE 3.5)!    

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« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2005, 02:04:29 pm »
About KDE 3.5: stuck after suspend/resume on my Z. My xfce config is broken after using KDE. It looks nice on the other hand, maybe I'll have to flash and start from a clean system again.
e17 : fun, fast, nice. Needs some tweaking and development to become the one.
matchbox : it comes with the rom, so it will probably never be anybody's favourite. We want to tweak and change our Z's, don't we.
xfce: my favourite, as most people already knew. What I don't like is the "panel always on top" (it wasn't this way in 4.0.6, where it could behave as a normal window). Some people use autohide, but I don't feel comfortable with it while using a stylus. I mapped full-screen-mode to alt-f, this is even better because it hides borders and window-title-bars as well.
windowmanager : never tried, I will soon.
icewm : should come with more eyecandy out of the box. I've seen great things with this one, but haven't got the patience to figure out how to set it up the way I've seen it.
fvwm : great support on pdaX, reminds me of my hp-9000 days (HP-UX) in the early 90ties. I kinda love it.
fluxbox/blackbox : haven't really tried.

About speed : besides starting time they all respond more or less the same (except KDE, which is a bit heavy). I don't shut down, restart my wm very often, so ...
About memory : I use 64/128Mb swap, never had memory troubles.

The good thing : choice !!!!
Don't look at numbers, pick the one you like !  

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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2006, 02:57:23 pm »
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About KDE 3.5: stuck after suspend/resume on my Z. My xfce config is broken after using KDE. It looks nice on the other hand, maybe I'll have to flash and start from a clean system again.
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Flashed beta 1, runs smoothly now!
Nice stuff.

Happy new year,
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SL-C760 : pdaXrom
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