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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2006, 03:42:09 am »
It looks like the subdirectories are causing some confusing, so I'll try one last time to explain what this is all about.

A normal OZ / Hentges installation is flashed into the "ROM" of your Z. For a flash installation you need a flash image (called initrd.bin) which contains the rootfs in jffs2 format and a kernel (zImage for Collie, zImage.bin for Akita).

So, to install Hentges / OZ into the flash of your Z you'll have to download:

One kernel from $MACHINE/kernel/
One initrd.bin from $MACHINE/hentges-*-image*

The file hentges-*-image* is a compressed tarball which contains initrd.bin, you'll have to extract it first (winzip can do so just fine)

This isn't too complicated, now is it?

Also Hentges on Collie supports a so-called CardFs file. A cardfs file contains applications that can be installed onto SD or CF in addition to the apps shipped with a normal flash installation.

To use cardfs (which you really should on Collie) you'll have to download one more file in addition to the above:

One cardfs file from $MACHINE/cardfs

Make sure you download the GPE cardfs for a GPE initrd.bin and an Opie cardfs for an Opie initrd.bin (well, this should be obvious...)

To install, copy all 3 files (initrd.bin, zImage and cardfs*.bin) on your CF card and flash as usual. You'll be prompted to install the CardFF on first boot.

That's it, really!

Now to the other subdirectories / files included with this release

$MACHINE/ext2 contains - as the name suggests - ext2 loop images which can be booted directly off SD or CF using Altboot. The header text in that directory points to a FAQ explaining how to do that....

$MACHINE/tarballs contains a full rootfs (the stuff inside initrd.bin) in a compressed tarball. This is also to be used with altboot and this directory also features a header text explaining just that and where to look for more info.
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2006, 03:43:12 am »
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Hi CoreDump,

I'm not having much luck with the latest version either. When I flash, the lights only come on for about thirty seconds, then go out. When I reboot, I get the error message about the wrong kernel. It seems to find zImage fine, and flash that, but not initrd.bin.
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Well, check the naming of initrd.bin then  
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I have exactly same problems. I can easily flash OZ 3.5.4 distribution, but old-style hentges installation fails. Lights come on for 10 seconds, and that's it. I'm using zImage-collie-64-0-20060409201626.bin renamed as zImage and initrd.bin extracted from hentges-opie-image-de-collie_T1-RC4.tar.gz.

And yes, I have double-checked naming of initrd.bin.

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Hmmm, the opie initrd looks a little bit too large. I'll check when I get home.
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2006, 09:47:50 am »
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Attempts to tar -zxvf  hentges-opie-image-de-collie_T1-RC4-3.5.4.1-alpha2-collie.rootfs.ext2.gz
do nothing.

It unziped without error but ended up a 150 MB file.

Is this a tar file? Why does tar -zxvf not work?

Thanks - Dan
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Please read the header text of the directory you got that file from:
[a href=\"http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/collie/ext2/]http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/collie/ext2/[/url]

It points to a FAQ which explains what an .ext2 file is and what it is good for.
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Yes, I had read the FAQ. I was following the directions to extract the initrd.bin. The system is Linux. tar -zxvf seems to complete but it does not extract any files.

The FAQ states that Winzip will work.

On a LInux system what is the preferred way to extract files from the .gz ?
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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2006, 10:19:56 am »
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Attempts to tar -zxvf  hentges-opie-image-de-collie_T1-RC4-3.5.4.1-alpha2-collie.rootfs.ext2.gz
do nothing.

It unziped without error but ended up a 150 MB file.

Is this a tar file? Why does tar -zxvf not work?

Thanks - Dan
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Please read the header text of the directory you got that file from:
[a href=\"http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/collie/ext2/]http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/collie/ext2/[/url]

It points to a FAQ which explains what an .ext2 file is and what it is good for.
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Yes, I had read the FAQ. I was following the directions to extract the initrd.bin. The system is Linux. tar -zxvf seems to complete but it does not extract any files.

The FAQ states that Winzip will work.

On a LInux system what is the preferred way to extract files from the .gz ?
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try gunzip
then tar -xf

I've had problems with tar -zxf sometimes and had to do the above.
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2006, 11:46:53 am »
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Attempts to tar -zxvf  hentges-opie-image-de-collie_T1-RC4-3.5.4.1-alpha2-collie.rootfs.ext2.gz
do nothing.

It unziped without error but ended up a 150 MB file.

Is this a tar file? Why does tar -zxvf not work?

Thanks - Dan
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Please read the header text of the directory you got that file from:
[a href=\"http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/collie/ext2/]http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/collie/ext2/[/url]

It points to a FAQ which explains what an .ext2 file is and what it is good for.
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Yes, I had read the FAQ. I was following the directions to extract the initrd.bin. The system is Linux. tar -zxvf seems to complete but it does not extract any files.

The FAQ states that Winzip will work.

On a LInux system what is the preferred way to extract files from the .gz ?
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As I already mentioned, the "*.ext2" file you are trying to extract is not a tarball.
It can not be extracted with tar -xzvf. And it isn't meant to be extracted in the first place.
The FAQ explains the concepts of an .ext2 nicely and it tells you how to use it.
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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2006, 12:00:15 pm »
same error for me:

I used this files
initrd from
/collie/hentges-gpe-image-collie_T1-RC4.tar.gz
uncompressed it and copied the initrd.bin to CF
kernel from
/collie/kernel/zImage-collie-64-0-20060409201626.bin
unnamed to zImage and copied to CF
cardfs from
/collie/cardfs/cardfs-gpe-collie-openzaurus_oz3.5.4.1-alpha2-gpe2.7-T1-RC4.bin
copied to CF

and then flashed
but the lights only come on for about thirty seconds and then go out.

After that only the Kernel is flashed.
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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2006, 12:05:22 pm »
I'm having the same problem (short light duration) with the henteges initrd.  I can flash the stock oz kernel and opie without problem.  Also, is it still possible to put the cardfs image on sd?

Thanks,
Greg
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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2006, 12:21:49 pm »
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I'm having the same problem (short light duration) with the henteges initrd.  I can flash the stock oz kernel and opie without problem.  Also, is it still possible to put the cardfs image on sd?

Thanks,
Greg
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I am looking at the initrd right now. It is too large to be flashable by the looks of it  
And yes, you can place cardfs on SD or CF.
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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2006, 01:01:40 pm »
Forget my last comment. The 3.5.4.1 branch can not produce working initrd..bins for Collie, investigating..

Note for the curious: I always boot from NFS when developing.
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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2006, 02:21:50 pm »
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Forget my last comment. The 3.5.4.1 branch can not produce working initrd..bins for Collie, investigating..

Note for the curious: I always boot from NFS when developing.

OK Thanks for the reply. I've used your CardFS before and had no problems previously. I've had my zaurus for a few years now, and to be honest, each release of Opie has become more problematic than the previous. I've been using Slackware for about five years now, so I am now stranger to GNU/Linux and the power of that in a PDA really appealed to me. Add to that the chance to play any kind of media I wanted regardless of format made it the ultimate media device for me. The first release of Opie I tried was wonderful for this, it played video brilliantly and any MP3s I threw at it. I don't really use it much for contacts or to do lists, so most of the software on Opie/GPE is a gimmick for me.  The collie is too small for web browsing/text editing, and the limited battery life of an hour and a half has become a real frustration. It takes several weeks after each release to get everything working as I like, so now rather than buy a new C Series as I was going to do, I'm just going to get an iPod.

Good luck with all your endeavours, Opie/GPE are great projects, but for me they just seem to be going further and further away from what I want.
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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2006, 10:57:57 pm »
"One initrd.bin from $MACHINE/hentges-*-image*

The file hentges-*-image* is a compressed tarball which contains initrd.bin, you'll have to extract it first (winzip can do so just fine)"

This is a cut from install instructions. I am unable to extract initrd.bin from the tarball. Can someone provide instructions on how to do this? Attempts to work with these .gz files result in a 157 MB ext2 file.

Thanks for you your help - Dan
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« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2006, 03:00:58 am »
Those expanded .gz files (both opie and gpe) are definitely very large, I also ended up with .ext2 files 153 megabytes in size. I don't think there is anything wrong with that, but you will need a decent size CF or SD card to store one, or both!, of them.

The hentges-*-image* files end in the extension '.tar.gz'
With Linux, they can be extracted using

tar xvzf (filename)

I am afraid I do not know how to extract tar/gz files with Windows, but there is bound to be a program somewhere! Tar is quite an old file archiving program, I remember using it when I had an Amiga

Anyway, the current initrd.bin files do not work with my collie (SL-5500), as CoreDump mentions previously in this thread.

Cheerio, David.

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"One initrd.bin from $MACHINE/hentges-*-image*

The file hentges-*-image* is a compressed tarball which contains initrd.bin, you'll have to extract it first (winzip can do so just fine)"

This is a cut from install instructions. I am unable to extract initrd.bin from the tarball. Can someone provide instructions on how to do this? Attempts to work with these .gz files result in a 157 MB ext2 file.

Thanks for you your help - Dan
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« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2006, 09:27:15 am »
Well, I've found the problem with the collie images, they were indeed to large. Collies firmware detected this and refused to flash the initrd.bin. I'm currently rebuilding and reuploading, stay tuned.
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« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2006, 10:35:16 am »
CoreDump I would just like to say thanks for working so hard on collie based rom
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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2006, 01:14:44 pm »
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CoreDump I would just like to say thanks for working so hard on collie based rom
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You're welcome  

New Collie images are uploading, ETA is about 1.5hrs.
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