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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2006, 10:17:34 am »
uth, Thank you for your reply
Looking forward to more options to play RPG games on Zaurus.
I don't think keymapping will fix this.
These are keys on the numpad with numlock off. My C3100 doesn't have a numpad.
Mouse doesn't work in dosbox, it is 1/3 of the screen away from it's hotspot
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2006, 11:25:45 am »
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uth, Thank you for your reply
Looking forward to more options to play RPG games on Zaurus.
I don't think keymapping will fix this.
These are keys on the numpad with numlock off. My C3100 doesn't have a numpad.
Mouse doesn't work in dosbox, it is 1/3 of the screen away from it's hotspot
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The mouse will be a problem for DosBox unless and until some helpful programmer gets it fixed.

Keymaps can all pretty much be fixed-  however due to the way DosBox handles
key mapping, it may be necessary to patch the DosBox code itself to get some keys
to work properly (not difficult.  Someone could/should write a Zaurus-keyboard
specific patch for DosBox. If I have a little more time, I will take a stab at it)

re: SSI D&D games-  Eye of the Beholder is a different engine than the goldbox
games.   The DragonLance, and Pool of Radiance series (verifiably) run without much trouble.  They use pseudo-3D for movement,  top-down turn-based combat.   A bit older than Eye of the Beholder, but if you *do* like old-school RPG, they're swell.

Roguelike RPGs (Nethack / Angband / ToME / Omega)  are native Unix,
and have no need for mouses.  They even have GUI, if ascii graphics dont quite do it for you.

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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2006, 01:52:57 pm »
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Wasteland is not available either, still protected.
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I have it on retail CD. If I can find the time, I'll dig it up and try it this weekend and give it a try.
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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2006, 07:29:22 pm »
would the first gear head work, maybe in x/qt?  It seems to rely on a lot of keyboard commands, which might help or hurt us.  

http://gearhead.roguelikedevelopment.org/

I'd be happy with just the ascii working

I got wasteland to work.  I've noticed that some games that 'kinda work' actually work when you overclock a little
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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2006, 08:24:57 pm »
UPDATE:

with some help from Qbix (thanks!) and his marvellously documented C++,
I've found where the mouse was getting misdetected, and fixed it.

I'm still testing, there are some remaining calibration issues when the pointer hits
the edge of the screen, but most mousy games should now be playable.

[/b]Dungeon Master:[/b] now runs fine- though sound is a little jerky
(its playable without sound, though nowhere near as much fun)

I suspect EotB should be playable too, though I never liked it to begin with.

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I don't think keymapping will fix this.
Sure thing
 
Remap "keypad-8" to "up arrow"
Remap "keypad-2" to "down arrow"

So, pressing "up" will send a KP_8 to the DOS program. Then you can:

Remap "F1" to [Fn] 1
etc

The problem isn't that "games like this are too complex for the Zaurus"

its that the game UI designers built with a 101-key monstrosity in mind,
and the idea that that some keyboards could be smaller and have
fewer or more keys than the PC-101, was apparently too difficult
for designers back then.

Don't confuse their lack of imagination for a defective Zaurus.


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Mouse doesn't work in dosbox, it is 1/3 of the screen away from it's hotspot

Qbix and I (well, Qbix has all the brain power, and I have all the motivation)
are trying to resolve this.  About 80% there, for pdaXrom.

In the event the last remaining bits of the problem *are* from pdaXrom or its SDL libs, the mouse may be fine on other roms.

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would the first gear head work, maybe in x/qt? It seems to rely on a lot of keyboard commands, which might help or hurt us.
Ew... YUCK

Its PASCAL (the horror!)
but apparently built for FreePascal, which apparently runs on Zaurus.
It uses SDL, no X11 that I can see, so it might just build and run fine on the Z.
You'll need a native build of FreePascal; and whatever SDL dev support it needs.

I can see no reason it wouldn't work, but probably some assembly required.

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2006, 03:47:03 pm »
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Wasteland is not available either, still protected.
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I have it on retail CD. If I can find the time, I'll dig it up and try it this weekend and give it a try.
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I found my Interplay 10 year Anthology CD but it looks like DOSBox doesn't work on OZ. Hmmm...
I'll have to try it on my PC.
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2006, 06:28:00 pm »
thanks for the info raduga.  I'm going to try it out though it would have to be easy for me to get it running, so we'll see.  
An old school game I got running under dosbox is Nahlakh
http://www.proudft.com/nah.html
Like most games there is a slow down, but once you run it (lkm.exe not nahlakh) and hit cancel and select no sound and change the combat speed to 0, it runs great.  I haven't encountered any problems with the keys yet, but of course there's keyhelper.