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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2006, 01:13:21 am »
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What's the same?  The ultimate goal of both is to deliver a Linux PDA environment to the Zaurus (well, OpenZaurus I guess could do more).
Not to pick holes in your well thought out post, but from my experience this isn't quite right. I believe that pdaXrom is not (despite the name!) really aiming to bring a PDA environment - it is much more of a full computer system with all the power that brings.

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That's it, enough to get me into trouble, probably.
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2006, 01:55:32 am »
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If you cut those out, I think pdaxrom has an edge over gpe. with compatlibs and xqt, arguably, oz/opie has the largest available software set, followed closely by cacko/sharp with xqt.

I remember reading a post some time back about how, if some of the internal components of pdaXrom were just a little more up to date, it would be able to run certain debian packages that it just can't run currently. The OZ crew seem to imply their rom's innards are more up to date, would this mean that these debian programs will run on OZ/GPE?
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2006, 02:09:27 am »
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If you cut those out, I think pdaxrom has an edge over gpe. with compatlibs and xqt, arguably, oz/opie has the largest available software set, followed closely by cacko/sharp with xqt.

I remember reading a post some time back about how, if some of the internal components of pdaXrom were just a little more up to date, it would be able to run certain debian packages that it just can't run currently. The OZ crew seem to imply their rom's innards are more up to date, would this mean that these debian programs will run on OZ/GPE?
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It is very unlikely that Debian stuff will work on OZ due to OZ using Softfloat.
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2006, 04:43:09 am »
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It is very unlikely that Debian stuff will work on OZ due to OZ using Softfloat.
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Is that really such an issue?
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2006, 04:49:19 am »
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[which reminds me... anyone have a look at xqt speed on 2.6 oz/opie >gpe?  could be  interesting
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qvfb on an OZ X based image (gpe, e, xfce) running opie apps would be a lot easier and faster
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2006, 05:04:11 am »
can you run regular sharprom applications on the oz/gpe?  I know the answer is NO but i just had to ask anyway.  It's just one of those things.
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2006, 05:04:43 am »
Well....

I'm loving GPE, it's very clean, well implemented and resizes the windows way better than pdaXrom.

I love the fact the onscreen keyboard isn't in the way of apps and they resize around it. I like the fact that nothing starts up beyond the range of the screen.

However, I'm not ready to abandon openoffice just yet :-P
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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2006, 05:42:05 am »
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can you run regular sharprom applications on the oz/gpe?  I know the answer is NO but i just had to ask anyway.  It's just one of those things.
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Actually, it is possible, just install the sharprom in a chroot and point the QWS vars to qvfb. It's similar to the trick pocketworkstation uses.
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2006, 05:59:05 am »
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Well....

I'm loving GPE, it's very clean, well implemented and resizes the windows way better than pdaXrom.

I love the fact the onscreen keyboard isn't in the way of apps and they resize around it. I like the fact that nothing starts up beyond the range of the screen.

However, I'm not ready to abandon openoffice just yet :-P
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abiword can open openoffice/opendoc documents, at least the version I compiled can. there are abiword plugins that allow you to open and save openoffice document. you just need to have those extra plugins.

in general i like openzaurus, but the major problem with it is still documentation. it is very hard to find out anything about oz unless you install it and see what it does, ie all the apps for oz as well, there isnt any repository you can lookup (as an ordinary user) to get an idea of what apps are available and what they can do. there is quite a lot of stuff there but its very hard to find if you are just doing your due dilligence research or just trying to find out more info before deciding whether you really want to try it. once you take the leap and actually install oz, then things just magically appear if you are connected to the net.
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2006, 06:09:59 am »
I still can't even get to first base!  So I take it I need not mess with it due to lack of knowledge.  I actually want to try out the oz/gpe and make some stuff for it but looking at the documentation and the files made do a 180 back to my cave.  When i browse for oz, i get bounced around tons of places and when i finally find the page, i just cant add 2plus2.

pdaxrom i can at least flash because documentation is right there infront of me.
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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2006, 06:20:31 am »
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2006, 06:29:57 am »
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2006, 07:07:18 am »
yeah i finally got those two pages and have them up.  Im backing up everything cuz i know what the hell is going to happen to my z   .  its taking 190 minutes copying files from my z to my pc.  Ill be playing with the oz for a bit just to see where you guys are at since i last flashed to another z.

the only problem i have is that file. "gnu-tar"----update, never mind.  I found it on that page.  Seriously took me a bit to figure the downloads out.

sorry pdaxdudes.  i kinda hijacked this thread.
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2006, 07:56:09 am »
Thanks hrw
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2006, 08:00:17 am »
going back to the topic from a noob point of view:

I've started my pda experience with a toshiba e750 mounting a windoze system... no way. winz sucks, so I decided to buy a Z...
now I'm a proud owner of a c3k clamshell Z and I've tried both pdaxrom and OZ....

what do I want most from my pda is:
- pre-installed software or an easy way to install it
- a fast system
- easy syncing with my pc (windoz or linux doesn't matter but it matters it must be easy!)
- the possibility to write some text in a format I can read on windoze machines
- a working mp3 player with a GUI
- a working video player with a GUI
- a pdf reader that takes into consideration pda limitation (small screen, slow processor, little ram) and capable of loading and displaying large pdf files.

I think that neither pdaxrom or OZ satisfy my needs... but here are some considerations from a noob point of view:
- pdaxrom doesnt fully support c3k while OZ does
- both distros need some learning to get installed what you like but I feel more confortable with OZ...
- I'd like to have only 1 distro for my pda instead of the ability to choose between 3 (gpe, opie, pdax) which don't satisfy my needs (but I understand this is a dream...)
- I'd be glad to donate on a montly base to get my needs satisfied.....
- I'd like to meet other people with my problems to count ourselves and to plan a strategy to improve our pda...

bye, al_do
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