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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2006, 05:11:46 pm »
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zedkatuf, thanks for enlightin' me about OZ

i'll see how to have Both OZ and BSD on c3200, will be nice mix

thanks again and wish you great time with your new zurii ( don't forget to share your experince with it )
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tnx for the feedback hus...I spose having pdxarom & OZ at the same time would be too tricky, as they use diff kernels?
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2006, 01:06:15 am »
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tnx for the feedback hus...I spose having pdxarom & OZ at the same time would be too tricky, as they use diff kernels?
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i guess so, i think there is no point to have pdaxrom and OZ in the same device, they almost identical and both have almost the same amount of feeds (both linux).

if you want to use the flash ram go for pdaxrom if you like OZ and don't care about the FLASH ram it's good too.

what's remarkable in my opinion to have pdaxrom (kernel 2.6) and OpenBSD, first you will use the flash ram with pdaxrom, 2nd you will use for example 1gb of HD for linux and the rest for OpenBSD.

and BTW, lately i found pdaxrom beta4 really stable enough to have in c3200 also good feeds for it, these two feeds more than enough check:

[a href=\"http://mail.pdaxrom.org/download/1.1.0beta4/Zaurus-Cxx00/feed/]http://mail.pdaxrom.org/download/1.1.0beta...rus-Cxx00/feed/[/url]
http://mail.pdaxrom.org/contrib/Xromer/Beta4/

i have used firefox with no problems and really fast with it, in another hand OZ hentges looks orginized and clean but really slow and to start firefox u gotta have time to wait

IMO to have pdaxrom+OpenBSD gonna be great to suck sl-c3200 resources  lets hope that OpenBSD dev team release a loader for 2.6 kernel.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2006, 06:43:07 am »
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IMO to have pdaxrom+OpenBSD gonna be great to suck sl-c3200 resources  lets hope that OpenBSD dev team release a loader for 2.6 kernel.

What? reboot? that ruins the uptime figures
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2006, 08:59:10 am »
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IMO to have pdaxrom+OpenBSD gonna be great to suck sl-c3200 resources  lets hope that OpenBSD dev team release a loader for 2.6 kernel.

What? reboot? that ruins the uptime figures
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yeah, I agree. rebooting is something I rarely do, and dual booting is something that was done in the 90s. ever since I discovered vmware (which I have used since v1.0) I have ditched dual booting.
afaik, BSD can run linux apps so ideally pdaXrom should run inside BSD
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2006, 09:28:57 am »
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yeah, I agree. rebooting is something I rarely do, and dual booting is something that was done in the 90s. ever since I discovered vmware (which I have used since v1.0) I have ditched dual booting.
afaik, BSD can run linux apps so ideally pdaXrom should run inside BSD
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well, old school here
my hands get itchy when uptime figure gets >32hrs, this tiny device for me != a server || WinCE reminder tool, it's a swiss army knife for network administration and testing, that's in my opinion and based on that i though of having OpenBSD and Linux together just to have most portable tools i need for networking, besides OpenBSD alone not a good idea because it dosen't support most of devices that i have or i may use compared to linux

and it's a way to sperate things (linux for playground / BSD for serious work) some users here flashing thier devices because the mess cused by installing apps on "linux" also it's good to have games or emulators which req. linux :> (work hard play harder)
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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2006, 09:37:18 am »
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yeah, I agree. rebooting is something I rarely do, and dual booting is something that was done in the 90s. ever since I discovered vmware (which I have used since v1.0) I have ditched dual booting.
afaik, BSD can run linux apps so ideally pdaXrom should run inside BSD
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well, old school here
my hands get itchy when uptime figure gets >32hrs, this tiny device for me != a server || WinCE reminder tool, it's a swiss army knife for network administration and testing, that's in my opinion and based on that i though of having OpenBSD and Linux together just to have most portable tools i need for networking, besides OpenBSD alone not a good idea because it dosen't support most of devices that i have or i may use compared to linux

and it's a way to sperate things (linux for playground / BSD for serious work) some users here flashing thier devices because the mess cused by installing apps on "linux" also it's good to have games or emulators which req. linux :> (work hard play harder)
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sounds like what you want is chrooted BSD inside Linux
I had some fun using jAnus, I mean Janus  to run Linux apps within Solaris. Pretty nifty.
and now that you mention it, I totally forgot about all the games that I got installed. I should actually play them
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2006, 09:50:35 am »
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sounds like what you want is chrooted BSD inside Linux
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yeah, it seems you work harder
well, chrooted BSD will not give me the power of already implemented (Hardware Access Layer) for some wirless cards or network cards, this is what makes BSD special for me (Open Source to the bone) the ability is endless here with the tools provided by BSD which linux start to loss it lately, (see madwifi driver branches for atheros WLAN cards where it goes now), also bsd is a unixes more than linux

it's only IMO you can just >/null
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2006, 11:15:22 am »
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tnx for the feedback hus...I spose having pdxarom & OZ at the same time would be too tricky, as they use diff kernels?
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i guess so, i think there is no point to have pdaxrom and OZ in the same device, they almost identical and both have almost the same amount of feeds (both linux).

if you want to use the flash ram go for pdaxrom if you like OZ and don't care about the FLASH ram it's good too.

what's remarkable in my opinion to have pdaxrom (kernel 2.6) and OpenBSD, first you will use the flash ram with pdaxrom, 2nd you will use for example 1gb of HD for linux and the rest for OpenBSD.

and BTW, lately i found pdaxrom beta4 really stable enough to have in c3200 also good feeds for it, these two feeds more than enough check:

[a href=\"http://mail.pdaxrom.org/download/1.1.0beta4/Zaurus-Cxx00/feed/]http://mail.pdaxrom.org/download/1.1.0beta...rus-Cxx00/feed/[/url]
http://mail.pdaxrom.org/contrib/Xromer/Beta4/

i have used firefox with no problems and really fast with it, in another hand OZ hentges looks orginized and clean but really slow and to start firefox u gotta have time to wait

IMO to have pdaxrom+OpenBSD gonna be great to suck sl-c3200 resources  lets hope that OpenBSD dev team release a loader for 2.6 kernel.
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Hi hus - thanks again for the comprehensive info.

Does beta4 support >1gb sd cards?
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2006, 11:49:59 am »
PdaX beta4 use 2.6 kernel from OE/OZ so it should support cards larger then 1G.
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2006, 11:52:40 am »
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PdaX beta4 use 2.6 kernel from OE/OZ so it should support cards larger then 1G.
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Excellent - I'll give it a go once my 3200 arrives.

Thanks for the quick reply.
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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2006, 12:38:25 pm »
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PdaX beta4 use 2.6 kernel from OE/OZ so it should support cards larger then 1G.
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Excellent - I'll give it a go once my 3200 arrives.

Thanks for the quick reply.
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well i have a 1GB SD card and it works fine with beta4, <==- too bad still (SD) not supported in OpenBSD :>
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« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2006, 01:43:18 pm »
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i have used firefox with no problems and really fast with it, in another hand OZ hentges looks orginized and clean but really slow and to start firefox u gotta have time to wait

Did your wlan card get recognised OK?
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« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2006, 02:15:48 pm »
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Did your wlan card get recognised OK?
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The PLANEX GW-CF11X works fine under linux all you need is the firmware (found here in the forums) works under cacko 1.23, OZ, pdaXrom.

The problem it dosen't work under OpenBSD yet, i feel it's a minor issue similare cards works fine, OpenBSD print the card ID and only faild in initializing phase, (should load up the firmware) and this is what i'm working on [i got the card as a combo with zaurus from pricejapan]  i want to get it work for some reasons:

1- New! i just got it from Tokyo (my first CF Wireless Card)  
2- The Box really cool (Japanese Anime touch)    
3- i used to Atheros chipset cards (pcmcia ones for laptops, i have 3) and i just want to try prism cards and this is my first  one, so i'm giving it full attention  
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« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2006, 02:29:14 pm »
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Did your wlan card get recognised OK?
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The PLANEX GW-CF11X works fine under linux all you need is the firmware (found here in the forums) works under cacko 1.23, OZ, pdaXrom.

The problem it dosen't work under OpenBSD yet, i feel it's a minor issue similare cards works fine, OpenBSD print the card ID and only faild in initializing phase, (should load up the firmware) and this is what i'm working on [i got the card as a combo with zaurus from pricejapan]  i want to get it work for some reasons:

1- New! i just got it from Tokyo (my first CF Wireless Card)  
2- The Box really cool (Japanese Anime touch)    
3- i used to Atheros chipset cards (pcmcia ones for laptops, i have 3) and i just want to try prism cards and this is my first  one, so i'm giving it full attention  
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I've got an Ambicom card which worked fine under OZ 3.5.4.1rc-2

In pdaxrom, is it a matter of simply inserting the wlan card & if it's recognised, then you can configure it via a gui app???  Laslty, do cardctl ident & cardctl insert/eject etc work under pdaxrom?

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« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2006, 02:46:03 pm »
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if you want to use the flash ram go for pdaxrom if you like OZ and don't care about the FLASH ram it's good too.

hi again - to install pdaxrombeta4, which of the following instructions do I use:

http://www.pdaxrom.org/index.php?showid=2&menuid=1 (Documentation)

OR:

http://mail.pdaxrom.org/node/78 (new bootloader)
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