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« on: July 12, 2006, 12:27:41 pm »
Hello guys,

my parents finally force me to use a mobile phone by buying me one.
So, what do I need on a mobile phone?
Linux of course.

I don't have much knowledge about mobile phones (never got one) and even less about linux on such ones ( I played much with my zaurus)
So, does someone of you know a nice device, on which you can play with linux (keeping its ability to serve as a mobile phone  ) and which is not too expensive (probably hard to find, I think)?

Would be nice to share your knowledge with me.

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2006, 01:08:09 pm »
All Linux Smartphones out there are hiding the Linux atm. The most promising models right now are the Motorola A780 and E680(i) for which we have started the OpenEZX project (see openezx.org).

They already run Linux and you can enhance them with own Linux software by jumping through a couple of hoops. The goal of the OpenEZX project is a complete replacement of the proprietary MOTO software stack -- but it's a mid term goal, since it involves hacking a lot on kernel and userland stuff.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2006, 02:56:41 pm »
There are a few linux phones out there, the Motorola's that Mickey posted, but also Phillips 968. There are more on their way also.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2006, 03:05:13 pm »
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There are more on their way also.
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And they will be on the market the day after the final of GNU Hurd is released.  (SCNR)

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2006, 03:08:04 pm »
Best Linux Smartphone... but not on the market yet

ImCoSys Linux Smartphone

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2006, 03:42:56 pm »
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And they will be on the market the day after the final of GNU Hurd is released.  (SCNR)

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That's a silly comment, and not at all true.
It takes a long time for phones to come to market, and western markets such as Europe and especially the US are slow to embrace new technologies.

There are more linux phones on the way (that run Qtopia BTW), I cannot comment on what and when.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2006, 12:51:55 am »
Do they have linux on the treos yet?

i know it runs on the xda's and some of the older models can be picked up on ebay for very little
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2006, 01:22:15 am »
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Do they have linux on the treos yet?

i know it runs on the xda's and some of the older models can be picked up on ebay for very little
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There's the rub.  I'd much prefer a Qtopia smartphone to palm or wince (orto  just to use a simple phone as an extension/modem for my Z), but when I mislaid my nokia (found it later) and went to ebay for a replacement I ended up grabbing a  Sierra VOQ. Hard to beat something with a keyboard for $71 us, you know?
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2006, 02:04:18 am »
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Do they have linux on the treos yet?

i know it runs on the xda's and some of the older models can be picked up on ebay for very little
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There's the rub.  I'd much prefer a Qtopia smartphone to palm or wince (orto  just to use a simple phone as an extension/modem for my Z), but when I mislaid my nokia (found it later) and went to ebay for a replacement I ended up grabbing a  Sierra VOQ. Hard to beat something with a keyboard for $71 us, you know?
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Who you using for cell??  Cell One?  I'm stuck with ACS, and they don't support phones with sim cards....
What's this button do??

C3100
Distro changes almost weekly...

C3200
Distro also changes almost weekly...  :)

Hardware hacks and stuff.

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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2006, 03:38:21 am »
gci.

gci cable tv. gci cable internet, gci cell.  they have unlimited data over cell for 60 monthly, supposedly they will pro-rate for days you don't use, and turn it on and off in a few hours--no lenthy contract.


The think is a little on the high side, but I have decent speed, and 1 "800" number to call when something doesn't work...and one company's bills to keep track of .
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2006, 04:34:17 pm »
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That's a silly comment [...]
Obviously.

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[...] and not at all true.
That remains to be seen.  

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It takes a long time for phones to come to market [...]
Granted, product cycles for an entirely new platform are at least 2 years (or at least they should be   ).

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There are more linux phones on the way (that run Qtopia BTW), I cannot comment on what and when.
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So you've been telling us for quite some time now. Knowing how easily designs are stripped and cancelled by marketroids, I won't hold my breath until I actually hold one in my hands, though.

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2006, 10:14:41 am »
Okay, even though this isn't an inexpensive phone, it is still a Linux-powered phone. The Motorola A1200 is a quadband GSM phone with a 2 MP camera and a built-in FM radio. Unfortunately, it's not EDGE. It has hadnwriting and voice recognition. Seems like the perfect companion for a Z. =) Sweet little phone. Comes in red, black, and white. I've been lusting after the red.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=871

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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2006, 06:46:30 pm »
Yes, the A1200 is sexy. The OpenEZX project has this on its agenda as well, but the priority now is the the more widespread A780.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2006, 04:09:33 am »
new one just reviewed, seems like they did a good job (motorla) but i didnt review it

as always its on the linux devices site
http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8243331060.html
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2006, 04:54:25 am »
Well, for my self I have decided, that I don't need a smartphone.
I've already my zauri to play with (and for this plays I have not enough time anyway) so such a smartphone would be quiet the same thing, despite that there is not really a chance to get gentoo running on it.
Much to expensive these little toys.