Commas In Cacko

[omro]

Hi All

I'm currently using Cacko 1.23 and this doesn't come with the sticky shift and function enabled as in the Sharp ROM that I got from Shirt Pocket.

So I copied elements from the keyhelper file from the Sharp ROM into the keyhelper file for the Cacko.

My problem is the comma.

The comma and the forward slash are inverted in cacko, which is fine, don't want to change that particularly.

But I can't press and release shift and press the ,/ key and get a comma, I just get a forward slash. I have to hold shift and then press the ,/ to get a comma and if I then press the space bar I get a | which is what you get with shift and space bar. So the sticky shift is ignoring the comma.

Here's my keyhelper.xml file, I don't really understand it, I know it's probably pretty basic, but logic was never my specialty.

Any hints would be very much appreciated!

Thanks

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[daniel3000]

Well, there are other similar problems I have. For example I use german Umlauts. When I'm entering a capial Umlaut by pressing Fn-Shift-U for example, then releasing all three keys, the next letter will also be capital, as if the shift key is not released.

Sometimes also the Fn key seems not to be released, because sometimes writing text (e.g. the word "München"), a new console is opened by magic. <g>
The ü requires Fn-u, I release both, then press n. But it is interpreted as Fn-n which opens a new console.

All that is quite frustrating when writing a lot of text.
The HP 200LX I used before never had such problems. The Fn and Shift keys were sticky by default. Entering text fluently was never a problem.

Too bad.

If anyone knows solutions to these problems, please let us know.

Thanks
daniel

[mikew]

This has been a problem with , ? and / keys on every english version of Cacko.

You need to edit the file home/zaurus/Applications/cyrillica/englisk-uk

The keyboard section starting at line 59 should be:-

[keyboard]
'/'   '/'   ','
','   '/'   ','
'?'  '?'  '.'
 0    0    0

Dont forget to take a backup before altering the file, you may also need to copy the file elsewhere before your editor will allow you to make any changes.

Corrected error spotted by HoloVector.

Mike

[HoloVector]

This has been a problem with , ? and / keys on every english version of Cacko.

You need to edit the file home/zaurus/Applications/cyrillica/englisk-uk

The keyboard section starting at line 59 should be:-

[keyboard]
'/'   '/'   ','
','   '/'   ','
'?'  '?'  ','
 0    0    0

Dont forget to take a backup before altering the file, you may also need to copy the file elsewhere before your editor will allow you to make any changes.

Mike
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Thanks for the tip Mike.  This problem has been bugging me in Cacko but, I never had a chance to look into it.  

I do recommend that if some decides to try this that they check Settings->Keyboard first to figure out which english layout that they are using.  Mine was using english not english-uk.

Also, I believe you have typo line 62 and that it should have a period and not a comma and should then read '?' '?' '.' not '?' '?' ','

Thanks again

[omro]

This has been a problem with , ? and / keys on every english version of Cacko.

I've no issues with my questionmark key. Just the comma and forward slash.
Does this still apply?

[mikew]

Yes it does apply, you should only get problems with ? key if you don't edit the file correctly!

Mike

[omro]

Will this change interfere with the code in cacko's key helper which is meant to swap the forward slash and comma about?

[mikew]

I never used keyhelper, much easier to update the file.

These changes were originally provided by Anton in the days before Keyhelper.

You can return to the original seetings if you backup the file before making any changes.

Mike

[omro]

I'm just worried it'll kill the sticky keys

[omro]

Hiya,

I've tried mikew's suggestion and there is still a problem

I still have to hold shift down to get a comma and if I press space after the comma I still get an |

Is there something wrong with my keyhelper file now?

[HoloVector]

Hiya,

I've tried mikew's suggestion and there is still a problem

I still have to hold shift down to get a comma and if I press space after the comma I still get an |

Is there something wrong with my keyhelper file now?
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I think so.  I'm only using keyhelper for ScummVM and my comma key is properly mapped.

[omro]

Hiya,

I've tried mikew's suggestion and there is still a problem

I still have to hold shift down to get a comma and if I press space after the comma I still get an |

Is there something wrong with my keyhelper file now?
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I think so.  I'm only using keyhelper for ScummVM and my comma key is properly mapped.
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rats, any ideas anyone?

[mikew]

Hiya,

I've tried mikew's suggestion and there is still a problem

I still have to hold shift down to get a comma and if I press space after the comma I still get an |

Is there something wrong with my keyhelper file now?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=140438\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I think so.  I'm only using keyhelper for ScummVM and my comma key is properly mapped.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=140474\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

rats, any ideas anyone?
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You will only have problems with , & / if you did not edit the file correctly.

You will get a | when you hold the shift key down at the same time as you press the space bar on every Zaurus, or perhaps the sticky key facility is holding the shift key down for you. You can check this out by holding the shift key down while pressing the space bar in any application.

MikeW

[omro]

Hiya,

I've tried mikew's suggestion and there is still a problem

I still have to hold shift down to get a comma and if I press space after the comma I still get an |

Is there something wrong with my keyhelper file now?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=140438\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I think so.  I'm only using keyhelper for ScummVM and my comma key is properly mapped.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=140474\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

rats, any ideas anyone?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=140475\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

You will only have problems with , & / if you did not edit the file correctly.

You will get a | when you hold the shift key down at the same time as you press the space bar on every Zaurus, or perhaps the sticky key facility is holding the shift key down for you. You can check this out by holding the shift key down while pressing the space bar in any application.

MikeW
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Sticky keys work normal until I press the comma.
I press shift and /, and get only a / I have to hold down shift and press /, to get a comma. The sticky shift remains on at this point until the next key press.

[omro]

Can someone please post a working keyhelper.xml and englisk-uk files with sticky keys from their cacko that doesn't have the same problem that mine does?

Thanks