Author Topic: Outliner / Journal Application For Z / Linux (Read 8493 times)

ZDevil · « **Reply #15 on:** August 31, 2006, 04:21:45 am »

Good news!
LEO runs with tk and tcl installed, together with python 2.4 and the python-tk module. It only complains about no rst3 plugin but it doesn't hurt.
It runs a bit slow on SD card and seems to have big overhead. And the fonts are too small. After all it's a nice app. Will go on playing with it when free.

daniel3000 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 31, 2006, 05:08:04 am »

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Good news!
LEO runs with tk and tcl installed, together with python 2.4 and the python-tk module. It only complains about no rst3 plugin but it doesn't hurt.
It runs a bit slow on SD card and seems to have big overhead. And the fonts are too small. After all it's a nice app. Will go on playing with it when free.
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hm - could you please explain step by step how you did that?
I just downloaded the latest version 4.4.1final from today and tried it (tk, tcl and python-tk installed). I get the same error as on my last attempt some weeks ago:

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# cd src
# python
Python 2.4.1...
...
>>> import leo
>>> leo.run()
"isValidPython: can not import leoGlobals"

What should I do differently?
(running "python leo.py" directly has the same effect)

Could you please give me the output of

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ipkg status | grep pyon your machine? Maybe I have to install another python package?
According to my very limited python knowledge and a first analysis fo this error message it seems that some definitions (TRUE, FALSE...) are not set.

daniel

ZDevil · « **Reply #17 on:** August 31, 2006, 05:36:41 am »

Well, i'm afraid my ipkg status | grep py output can't help much here, coz i already installed python and ALL the python packages on my Z (when trying to build pygtk and other python stuff. )
AFAIK python-tk needs python-core.
Or just like me install everything just to see how LEO fares. (I'm being too lazy to track down the dependencies) Actually those python packages are very small and won't take up much space.

ZDevil · « **Reply #18 on:** August 31, 2006, 05:41:44 am »

Forgot to mention that I didn't do "import leo", but simply go to src/ and "python leo.py". Dunno if that makes any difference?

daniel3000 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 31, 2006, 05:42:48 am »

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Well, i'm afraid my ipkg status | grep py output can't help much here, coz i already installed python and ALL the python packages on my Z (when trying to build pygtk and other python stuff. )
AFAIK python-tk needs python-core.
Or just like me install everything just to see how LEO fares. (I'm being too lazy to track down the dependencies) Actually those python packages are very small and won't take up much space.
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okay, so I may try to install all python modules available in the feeds.
I am on GPRS line currently, so this must wait until I am back home (evening).
I tracked it down a bit:
Executing the "import leoGlobals as g" command manually on the Python command line revealed that the needed module "filecmp" is not available.

Every attempt to find out which of the Zaurus modules could contain that python module failed.
On the Internet I find a lot of references for Python functions but none mentions packages or modules these functions are be contained in, let alone giving download links...

Actually, I don't want to install all modules because I'd like to save root space. So if you could try to find out which or the installed modules contains filecmp, it would be great!

Thanks
daniel

ZDevil · « **Reply #20 on:** August 31, 2006, 05:48:48 am »

Hey, "filecmp" is found in the big python 2.4 package.

daniel3000 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 31, 2006, 05:58:41 am »

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Hey, "filecmp" is found in the big python 2.4 package.
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So maybe I should install that.
I thought it would be installed, as pdaXrom relies so much on Python, so I didn't even check it is installed. But you are right: it is not!

So maybe my other Python problems (module "glob" not found on other outliners etc.) are also related to that.

Bugger! I should have checked that before. Would probably have saved my a lot of trouble.

Thanks a lot! Will try tonight.

daniel

Drake01 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 01, 2006, 06:44:49 pm »

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pdaXrom: NoteCase
Similar to TuxCards, NoteCase also organize notes hierarchically. Although the interface is less good-looking than TuxCards' and does not have date/time insertion, NoteCase can take web links and file links. Export to HTML and TXT work well, despite the simple formatting. It can also import from XML, which I haven't tried. It is GTK app so the current multi-language inputmethods (SCIM, UIM, etc) work very well with it.
Developer's site: http://notecase.sourceforge.net/
Previous discussion: https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16816
(There is also a simple GTK journal taking app Cire, which I also like very much, discussed in this thread)
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Can I assume that the same NoteCase data file is readable in all versions of the app (Zaurus, Linux, Win)?

And the developer's site mentions encryption, but I didn't see any details. Do you know if this is relatively strong encryption? Or something pathetic like an XOR function?

ZDevil · « **Reply #23 on:** September 02, 2006, 01:57:30 am »

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Can I assume that the same NoteCase data file is readable in all versions of the app (Zaurus, Linux, Win)?

And the developer's site mentions encryption, but I didn't see any details. Do you know if this is relatively strong encryption? Or something pathetic like an XOR function?
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The notecase encrypted format (.nce) uses SHA-1. The help file in the program will tell you more.
Both the uncrypted .ncd and the encrypted .nce are just HTML so you can open them with a web browser or even a text editor.
Although it appears simpler than other outliners, the good thing about notecase is there are versions for Linux, Zaurus and Windows. I am using the Linux version at home, the Zaurus version on the fly, and the Windows version in my office (installed on a USB stick).

ZDevil · « **Reply #24 on:** September 02, 2006, 11:02:30 am »

Just uploaded knowde here

p.s. Oops. Just saw Chero's another post saying that he's already compiled it. Sorry!

Chero · « **Reply #25 on:** September 05, 2006, 11:47:54 am »

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Just uploaded knowde here

p.s. Oops. Just saw Chero's another post saying that he's already compiled it. Sorry!
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Don't worry, it was an easy one
Thanks for packing it up.

Have fun,
Chero.

danr · « **Reply #26 on:** September 08, 2006, 05:57:47 am »

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I'm looking for an application which can be used for outlining and quick note taking in form of a journal (i.e. date / time stamp automatically added etc.) in combination, which is usable on the Zaurus and any (Linux) PC and / or Mac.

The method I currently use isn't particularly glamorous, but it's straightforward. I simply write notes with a text editor, with extension ".note", and have set up syntax highlighting to display a line starting with '-- ' as a comment, and it also differentiates text between quotes as a string.

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-- Fri 08/09/06
This is some text, e.g. a diary entry

I've set up my editor to automatically add the date line with a certain key press.

I've taken this all a step further as well as at work I make notes on my work, and then I use a perl script to look for all entries within the last week, and put those in a weekly report file.

I also use notes for personal use, using a directory hierarchy to store individual note items, with titles such as computer, finance, local, music, other, personal, etc. Then I can use 'find . | xargs grep <text>' to search for info.

pros: simple, can sync with a PC and edit files there, then sync back (I use unison)
cons: not very flashy.

daniel3000 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 11, 2006, 03:59:23 am »

...but very appealing!
This is about the method I have used on the HP palmtop before switching to the Zaurus. One difference:
There was a PIM GUI tool which allowed to view data in such text files wasily in calendar views, list views etc. and to manipulate them a bit.

Will have to think about that.

The Journal feature in KO/PI supports rudimantary calendar view (days which HAVE a journal entry are marked in the date navigator) and the search feature is also quite good.
What I dislike is that the search only shows the title of the journal, which is usually not what I am interested in (beacuse I know under which title I have to search).
Grep would allow to see the word searched for and some context. Much better!

And since there is no real connection between the KO/PI journal feature and the other features (no links possible etc.), i.e. the Journal feature in KO/PI is like a stand-alone solution, I can wasily migrate to another solution, keeping the remaining (brilliant!) KO/PI setup as it is.

Thanks for the idea!
daniel

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