Problems With Pdaxrom 1.1.0beta3 Sl-c3100

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Most applications I start start in a way that the window is large and doesn't fit the screen or that the window is smaller than the screen.

Is there a way to tell the window manager that aplcation XY should be started in a maximised, i.e. fitted to screen, window?

Thanks
daniel
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again, I tended to eiterh ignore it, or change window managers.  xfce, icewm and (I think) fvwm will handle your window sizes better.  A few app just don't behave , period--you just have to use alt to get around.  The one that comes to mind in this regard is the preferences in firefox..

[ZDevil]

Using other window managers will solve the window sizing problems.
Icewm, xfce, KDE, windowmaker, etc, can automatically resize the windows in many ways you want, plus a lot of goodies.  :-)
The only workarounds I know under matchbox is to use set the geometry option for individual programs, which is not always working, and to issue Ctrl-Alt-M manually.

[Srono]

Can i know the name of some working goodies in icewm? Thanks alot.

[daniel3000]

Using other window managers will solve the window sizing problems.
Icewm, xfce, KDE, windowmaker, etc, can automatically resize the windows in many ways you want, plus a lot of goodies.  :-)
The only workarounds I know under matchbox is to use set the geometry option for individual programs, which is not always working, and to issue Ctrl-Alt-M manually.
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Yes, I'll certainly use another WM later, but for now I'll stick with the default one. Ctrl-Alt-M is a good simple work-around for me. Thanks!

I have seen in another thread (poll) that xfce seems to be the fastest WM, so 'll probably use that one. Does it have significant drawbacks in usability or so?
What about the PDA-specific things like charging / battery indicator, card eject applet, screensaver / suspend disabler applet etc., is it all available in xfce similar to matchbox?
How much space on the root fs do I need to install a full xfce? Can I remove matchbox packages to get some space?


I have tried to start midnight commander: The "graphics" (i.e. borders) are messed up, even with option -a. Is there a way to make it appear correctly?
Which other file manager can you recommend?

I have installed sylpheed-claws 2.0.2.
Now I have that and sylpheed 2.0.0 available.
Which one is better / most recommended (faster etc.)?
I need several accounts, also for sending mail, good filter and search capabilities, and it should handle large mail archives (several 1000 mails).
Is there a version which can use (not only import and export) mbox files?



Last question for now:  
Where can I create / manipulate the matchbox application icons / menu entries?


Thanks a lot for all your help!
daniel

[daniel3000]

Abiword 2.4.4-2 by meanie works nicely after installing the libiconv-1.9.2 package from the feeds. Otherwise it reports missing library libiconv.so.2.

Are there versions of these applicatoins compiled for pdaxrom with the libc iconv functions instead of using libiconv?
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...or can there be any problem with an additionally installed libiconv (1.9.2, or should I compile 2.0?) when the libc already supports iconv functions?

daniel

[desertrat]

I have seen in another thread (poll) that xfce seems to be the fastest WM, so 'll probably use that one.

That poll is flawed! It doesn't even include IceWM as one of the choices. I've used Xfce under beta1, it wasn't exactly fast nor stable. The good thing about it was the session manager so that on startup I have the apps I need automatically loaded (obviously increasing startup time), but sometimes it loads apps into the wrong virtual desktop.

Does it have significant drawbacks in usability or so?

It had a tendency to lose the panel (the thing that holds the system tray, task bar etc), sometimes restarting the panel brings it back otherwise X has to be restarted. Like matchbox, sometimes it takes a long time to resume because it seems to restart the WM, I can see that it reverts to portrait then switches back to landscape then all the apps gets redrawn.

What about the PDA-specific things like charging / battery indicator, card eject applet, screensaver / suspend disabler applet etc., is it all available in xfce similar to matchbox?

You can run all the matchbox applets and they'll appear on the system tray. The nice thing about icewm as opposed to xfce is that several of the applets are already builtin (network monitor, clock, power/battery indicator) so you don't need to run the matchbox equivalent.

I have tried to start midnight commander: The "graphics" (i.e. borders) are messed up, even with option -a. Is there a way to make it appear correctly?

Are you running mc under xterm? I had the same problem when upgrading from beta1 to beta3.  Using mrxvt instead of xterm solved that problem.

Which other file manager can you recommend?

For gui I quite like emelfm (emelfm and emelfm2 can be found in this forum).

Last question for now:   
Where can I create / manipulate the matchbox application icons / menu entries?

Most WMs build the menus using the *.desktop files found in /usr/share/applications, some will also look in /usr/local/share/applications (matchbox does not - this is why some packages you find in this forum doesn't have a menu entry under matchbox, I think I am the packager of at least one these packages!).

-- cheers

[daniel3000]

I have seen in another thread (poll) that xfce seems to be the fastest WM, so 'll probably use that one.

That poll is flawed! It doesn't even include IceWM as one of the choices. I've used Xfce under beta1, it wasn't exactly fast nor stable. The good thing about it was the session manager so that on startup I have the apps I need automatically loaded (obviously increasing startup time), but sometimes it loads apps into the wrong virtual desktop.

Aha, so IceWM is more recommended than xfce?
So I'll probably try that one.
Same questions here:
Usability flaws? Space needed on /?

It had a tendency to lose the panel (the thing that holds the system tray, task bar etc), sometimes restarting the panel brings it back otherwise X has to be restarted. Like matchbox, sometimes it takes a long time to resume because it seems to restart the WM, I can see that it reverts to portrait then switches back to landscape then all the apps gets redrawn.

Nogo! So I will NOT use xfce. Thanks for warning me!

Are you running mc under xterm? I had the same problem when upgrading from beta1 to beta3.  Using mrxvt instead of xterm solved that problem.

No, even in mrxvt (0.5.1) mc and mc -a looks totally messed up.

For gui I quite like emelfm (emelfm and emelfm2 can be found in this forum).

thanks, will try that!

Most WMs build the menus using the *.desktop files found in /usr/share/applications, some will also look in /usr/local/share/applications (matchbox does not - this is why some packages you find in this forum doesn't have a menu entry under matchbox, I think I am the packager of at least one these packages!).

Thanks! Very valuable info. So creating a symlink like

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mv /usr/local/share/applications/* /usr/share/applications
rmdir /usr/local/share/applications
ln -s /usr/share/applications /usr/local/share/applications
should bring up the missing icons and prepare for future packages putting their desktop file in the wrong place, right?


daniel

[daniel3000]

Another problem:
When I connect an USB hub with BT stick and mouse, everything works fine until suspend/wakeup.
After wakeup the USB stuff remains unpowered (LEDs off).
I have to disconnect/reconnect the hub in order to make USB devices work again.

Anyone else having this problem?
How can I solve this?

Thanks!
daniel

[ZDevil]

Are you running mc under xterm? I had the same problem when upgrading from beta1 to beta3.  Using mrxvt instead of xterm solved that problem.

No, even in mrxvt (0.5.1) mc and mc -a looks totally messed up.

I wonder if it is the font problem. Specifying the right font seem to fix the problem.

Most WMs build the menus using the *.desktop files found in /usr/share/applications, some will also look in /usr/local/share/applications (matchbox does not - this is why some packages you find in this forum doesn't have a menu entry under matchbox, I think I am the packager of at least one these packages!).

Thanks! Very valuable info. So creating a symlink like

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mv /usr/local/share/applications/* /usr/share/applications
rmdir /usr/local/share/applications
ln -s /usr/share/applications /usr/local/share/applications
should bring up the missing icons and prepare for future packages putting their desktop file in the wrong place, right?

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I simply use Rox desktop and drag the icons to the workspace and assign shortcut keys using iceked (one of the icewm configuration tools).  

Another problem:
When I connect an USB hub with BT stick and mouse, everything works fine until suspend/wakeup.
After wakeup the USB stuff remains unpowered (LEDs off).
I have to disconnect/reconnect the hub in order to make USB devices work again.
Anyone else having this problem?
How can I solve this?
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Would this case have to do with (additional) power requirement to startup/wakeup USB stuff? I don't have issue with USB sticks, mouse and keyboard. I haven't tried USB BT, though.

[Chero]

Hi,

I don't want to start a discussion on the best/fastest/... WM, but some of the answers I read here are not completely correct. I think it's up to the user to decide what he likes most, even if this means giving up some speed/recources.

I have seen in another thread (poll) that xfce seems to be the fastest WM, so 'll probably use that one.

That poll is flawed! It doesn't even include IceWM as one of the choices. I've used Xfce under beta1, it wasn't exactly fast nor stable. The good thing about it was the session manager so that on startup I have the apps I need automatically loaded (obviously increasing startup time), but sometimes it loads apps into the wrong virtual desktop.

xfce isn't the fastest WM, but I get things done quicker in xfce compared to other WMs. Probably cause I'm running xfce on my desktop as well. The poll is flawed indeed, I think nothing is as fast as WindowMaker.

Does it have significant drawbacks in usability or so?

It had a tendency to lose the panel (the thing that holds the system tray, task bar etc), sometimes restarting the panel brings it back otherwise X has to be restarted. Like matchbox, sometimes it takes a long time to resume because it seems to restart the WM, I can see that it reverts to portrait then switches back to landscape then all the apps gets redrawn.

I never loose my panel. I think the matchbox battery applet running in the systray causes this problem. Since I stopped using it, I don't loose my panel any longer.

What about the PDA-specific things like charging / battery indicator, card eject applet, screensaver / suspend disabler applet etc., is it all available in xfce similar to matchbox?

You can run all the matchbox applets and they'll appear on the system tray. The nice thing about icewm as opposed to xfce is that several of the applets are already builtin (network monitor, clock, power/battery indicator) so you don't need to run the matchbox equivalent.

Same (and even more) for xfce.

I have tried to start midnight commander: The "graphics" (i.e. borders) are messed up, even with option -a. Is there a way to make it appear correctly?

Are you running mc under xterm? I had the same problem when upgrading from beta1 to beta3.  Using mrxvt instead of xterm solved that problem.

"Terminal" does the job just fine.

Which other file manager can you recommend?

For gui I quite like emelfm (emelfm and emelfm2 can be found in this forum).

"Thunar" is my favourite, "xfe" also does a nice job.

Last question for now:  
Where can I create / manipulate the matchbox application icons / menu entries?

Most WMs build the menus using the *.desktop files found in /usr/share/applications, some will also look in /usr/local/share/applications (matchbox does not - this is why some packages you find in this forum doesn't have a menu entry under matchbox, I think I am the packager of at least one these packages!).

Have a look in /usr/apps

(I'm the packager of more than one    )

(why does this preview look so ugly)

Have fun,
Chero.

[ZDevil]

Hi,

I don't want to start a discussion on the best/fastest/... WM, but some of the answers I read here are not completely correct. I think it's up to the user to decide what he likes most, even if this means giving up some speed/recources.

I have seen in another thread (poll) that xfce seems to be the fastest WM, so 'll probably use that one.

That poll is flawed! It doesn't even include IceWM as one of the choices. I've used Xfce under beta1, it wasn't exactly fast nor stable. The good thing about it was the session manager so that on startup I have the apps I need automatically loaded (obviously increasing startup time), but sometimes it loads apps into the wrong virtual desktop.

xfce isn't the fastest WM, but I get things done quicker in xfce compared to other WMs. Probably cause I'm running xfce on my desktop as well. The poll is flawed indeed, I think nothing is as fast as WindowMaker.


...

Have a look in /usr/apps

(I'm the packager of more than one    )

(why does this preview look so ugly)

Have fun,
Chero.
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WindowMaker runs really fast on Zaurus, compared to other wms (but things seem to differ for Desktops, according to some benchmarking such as this [a href=\"http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News]http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News[/url] )
Yet Chero has worked a lot on Xfce. I tried that and found it a cool and fun wm.
So choosing which wm for me is just a matter of personal preference.  

So does it work to move the icons into /usr/apps and change the desktop files accordingly?  

The BB codes (esp.

run astray after editing quotes or adding quote codes in my case.  

[daniel3000]

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mv /usr/local/share/applications/* /usr/share/applications
rmdir /usr/local/share/applications
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Replying to myself:
This has a funny effect:
All icons are doubled now.
So it seems my matchbox looks in both directories for icons!

...deleting the link again.

daniel

[daniel3000]

I wonder if it is the font problem. Specifying the right font seem to fix the problem.

Could be.
If I start mrxvt fom an rxvt, I see the error message:

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mrxvt: Cannot open font "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono". Using font "Courier new" instead.
hm - can I install additional fonts (the missing one for example)?
What font would work better, which is installed on a default pdaxrom system?

I simply use Rox desktop and drag the icons to the workspace and assign shortcut keys using iceked (one of the icewm configuration tools).   

Yes, I see, I will have to use icewm and rox. Will try that later! :-]

Would this case have to do with (additional) power requirement to startup/wakeup USB stuff? I don't have issue with USB sticks, mouse and keyboard. I haven't tried USB BT, though.

Could be. I'll test if it also happens if only one of the devices is connected, without a hub.
--> Results:
If I connect only the mouse, this does NOT happen. Mouse comes up nicely after poweron.
If I connect only the BT stick, that stick does NOT come up after poweron. I have to dis- and reconnect it.
BUT: If I only dis- and reconnect the stick from the USB host adapter cable, nothing happens. I have to remove the host adapter cale from the Z and reconnect that in order to make the BT stick usable again!
I didn't know that this makes a difference, but indeed: dmesg shows that the host adapter cable is recognized seperately, and USB host drivers only seem to be loaded if this adapter is connected.
Is there a way of reinitializing this USB-host stuff on poweron? That would certainly solve my problem.
And if I really do what I have in mind (building that BT stick INTO the Zaurus) I'll have to have a software solution anyway.
Ideas?

Thanks!
daniel

[daniel3000]

Have a look in /usr/apps
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erm - sorry - but now I'm confused.
I saw the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications.
But in /usr/apps there are xml files AND finally I see that folder structure which matchbox shows on the desktop / in the menu.
However, I have created a new .desktop file in /usr/share/applications and the icon appeared on the next startup (in the correct Tab "Other").

So how are these two directories related?
And how does matchbox know where to put the icon described in the destop file, although the file structure of /usr/share/applications is totally flat (no directories)?

thanks
daniel

[daniel3000]

One more issue:
From time to time, during setting up pdaxrom, I make NAND backups in order to have "good" images.

After doing a NAND backup, the time and date are screwed up (just now time jumped back about 11 hours and 50 minutes, date is intact).

Any idea if this is a sign for a serious problem?
Any way to avoid that?

thanks
daniel