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« on: September 08, 2006, 05:19:48 pm »
the Sony mylo is quite an interesting device hardware-wise, and I was wondering if we shouldn't have a forum section ready for when people start hacking it? the usual hardware and software forum would probably suit.

I'm looking forward to when we can extract the interesting software and roll it into, say, Cacko!

in particular I'm hoping to see a decent Skype client, an updated opera browser, and a flash player!
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2006, 08:05:28 pm »
Qtopia 1.5 based?

Remember, it'll need the right libraries to run on Cacko, Sharp or Opie. . .
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2006, 08:20:00 pm »
Qtopia is not necessarily an issue. I'd love a command line skype client. Flash player too (like mplayer on the command line). Opera, I guess is another matter.

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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2006, 08:24:38 pm »
I'm sorry, the Sony Skype client, designed for an end-user WM5 type deployment is command line?
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2006, 08:43:44 pm »
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I'm sorry, the Sony Skype client, designed for an end-user WM5 type deployment is command line?
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Nothing in Wince is command line.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2006, 10:09:49 pm »
The mylo is linux, right? So it's nothing to do with WM5. Presumably the binary has a part that actually makes the phone calls and a part that drives the GUI. As long as you can figure out a way to send a command to the part that makes the call, then a simple "skype 555-1212" should get it do dial. There is already a skype for desktop linux, which I haven't tried. Maybe someone can report whether it works from the command line.

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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2006, 03:45:46 am »
I think someone's confused here.. as I understand it. there is some sort of Skype SDK with published API, but the core part of it is only a binary. Perhaps then, what you are hoping for, is that there will be an ARM linux port of the SDK so that you can funky things with it via the command line?
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2006, 01:49:20 pm »
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The mylo is linux, right? So it's nothing to do with WM5. Presumably the binary has a part that actually makes the phone calls and a part that drives the GUI. As long as you can figure out a way to send a command to the part that makes the call, then a simple "skype 555-1212" should get it do dial. There is already a skype for desktop linux, which I haven't tried. Maybe someone can report whether it works from the command line.

Felipe
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I run Skype 1.3.0.30_API on my Linux box (XandrOS Desktop Home Premium), but from the GUI; haven't tried konsole.  
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2006, 05:49:24 pm »
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I'm sorry, the Sony Skype client, designed for an end-user WM5 type deployment is command line?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=140997\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


Nothing in Wince is command line.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=141001\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!


I MEANT that the Sony is designed for End users: The kind who are used to buying Windows Mobile PDA's.

Note Wm5 "TYPE"

Skype is a self-contained commercial program that is useable as a single GUI-based precompiled product. You can't use it without the GUI.

Apparently, the Mylo is Linux based and has a Skype Client.

HOWEVER!

Since it is designed for Typical End Users (Read: Windows using General-public Morons) It will be a self-contained Binary JUST LIKE ON DESKTOP LINUX AND WINDOWS!

Therefore, If we're going to copy the PRECOMPILED binary from the Mylo, we will need the Same libraries ETC That are used ON the Mylo, or it won't ruddy run at all, WILL IT!?

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Sorry, I just really don't see what was challenging about what I said!
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2006, 06:05:03 pm »
Until someone takes a peek, we don't know if the Mylo is kernel 2.6 or 2.4, nor whether it's qtopia 2.2 or 1.x.

I will be particularly interested to see whether Sony do the decent thing and voluntarily publish code under the GPL, or pretend that it doesn't apply to them (assuming they linked with libc etc).
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2006, 07:07:49 pm »
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I'm sorry, the Sony Skype client, designed for an end-user WM5 type deployment is command line?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=140997\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


Nothing in Wince is command line.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=141001\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!


I MEANT that the Sony is designed for End users: The kind who are used to buying Windows Mobile PDA's.

Note Wm5 "TYPE"

Skype is a self-contained commercial program that is useable as a single GUI-based precompiled product. You can't use it without the GUI.

Apparently, the Mylo is Linux based and has a Skype Client.

HOWEVER!

Since it is designed for Typical End Users (Read: Windows using General-public Morons) It will be a self-contained Binary JUST LIKE ON DESKTOP LINUX AND WINDOWS!

Therefore, If we're going to copy the PRECOMPILED binary from the Mylo, we will need the Same libraries ETC That are used ON the Mylo, or it won't ruddy run at all, WILL IT!?

|pants|

Sorry, I just really don't see what was challenging about what I said!
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Oh I knew what you were talking about.  I was just clarifying what you said.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2006, 08:23:09 pm »
Well, I reserve my judgement until Sash has a go at it :-)

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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2006, 05:52:22 pm »
So, apparently it is for sale now. Anybody got one?

Maybe lpotter can tell us if we can install Zaurus software (e.g. qconsole) on it.

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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2006, 06:30:06 pm »
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So, apparently it is for sale now. Anybody got one?

Maybe lpotter can tell us if we can install Zaurus software (e.g. qconsole) on it.

Felipe
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it's damn expensive. It's also a shame (probably repeating myself) that it couldn't have been based on the PSP as the hardware would have been quite special then
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2006, 04:58:29 pm »
*bump*

I really think we should have a Sony mylo section here, as I think there will be some interesting stuff it can do, and I'd like potential Mylo owners/hackers to cross-fertilise with the QT/linux crowd here.

Like, I'd like to know which version of QT, what kernel etc etc.
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