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« on: June 20, 2007, 08:20:43 am »
It seems that there's less and less of interest to those of us with a humble sl5500 these days as all the developers have newer and shinier toys.

Even Mr Hentges seems to have moved on.

Still, you've got to expect that if you're a dinozaur.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2007, 08:42:57 am »
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It seems that there's less and less of interest to those of us with a humble sl5500 these days as all the developers have newer and shinier toys.

Even Mr Hentges seems to have moved on.

Still, you've got to expect that if you're a dinozaur.
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I'm still using my even humbler SL5000. It does what I need it to but I am definitely feeling a bit left out these days...

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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2007, 08:44:46 am »
Forums are not bugtrackers!!! Smart questions
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2007, 10:13:54 am »
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Will those work on an SL5000D?

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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2007, 06:10:39 pm »
When I need something compiled for my sl5500, I can usually find someone willing to do it for me, even for my ancient ROM 2.38.  But it does take a bit of cajoling.

For example, the html syntax checker, tidy, was ported for Sharp ROM.  Poke around my software directory at:

http://www.sdjf.esmartdesign.com/ipks

And also see  http://www.sdjf.esmartdesign.com/kernel.html

You just have to have friends with sl5500's who don't mind porting stuff.  It's not easy, but not impossible, to make happen.

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2007, 07:16:01 pm »
I was in a rush when I put up that other post, but did have a lot more to say.

Yes, it is a drag the big-name developers are not very interested in the collie or our older sibling, the sl5000.  But they do know we have to be considered, as the attempts of angstrom and pdaXrom developers illustrate.

And, there also are those of us who continue to do a lot to make our collie's more versatile.  I continue writing scripts that, when I get them polished enough, I publish so others can use them.  I just haven't seen enough interest in what I'm doing to work real hard at cleaning many of my personal scripts up for publishing, but I do keep that goal in mind as I write.  See my scripts section at:

http://www.sdjf.esmartdesign.com/scripts

Also check out Quickening's hackery and potpourri of sl5500 scripts at:

http://quickening.zapto.org/Zaurus.html

http://www.sdjf.esmartdesign.com/scripts/kyle.html

Most of the scripts I have been working on have to do with resolving networking and dialup issues using a CF modem.

But more interest has been shown in the how-to's and tutorials I've worked on, so that's where I've been putting more energy.

http://www.sdjf.esmartdesign.com/tutorials.html#list

If you want more of what we do, you have to give us feedback on what we've done, and let us know if the stuff is helpful!

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2007, 08:27:30 am »
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That's what I was thinking about and I would dearly love to install it but not until it in a more useable state.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2007, 09:38:51 pm »
Well, I like to be one of those obsoletes.

I bougth my SL-5500 after having a C-3200, and the collie seems very useful to me for daily use. In fact, almost any C-3200 software runs on it. Not as fast than in the new model, but fast enough. It's a great machine.

There are a lot of resources but hard to found rigth when they are needed.

People like antikx, are making an effort to maintain the information referred, for example, to SD compatibility.

It's possible that some more work could be done to set up a lot of information that is messed and hard to find at the forum, as well as all the stuff related that people has shown in this post. Perhaps, something like Meanie's z3book.

It's hard to sail along hundred links.

This is just an opinion.

Cheers, and thanks for the information above.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2007, 10:11:53 pm »
Antikx is also working on a comprehensive handbook for all Zaurii.  A daunting task, but he is aware of the need, and those of us who can are doing our best to help.

Not sure what you mean by a hundred links.  I don't like lots of never-ending referral urls to go to either, and do my best to annotate whatever suggestions I make.

I have chosen to write as much as I can on selected topics and put up web pages about them.  Then when I see that what I've written might help someone out, I say "go read this" so I can save typing so much over and over, and the person gets more information.

What kind of hard-to-find resources are you referring to?
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2007, 12:13:01 pm »
I have expended some time looking for 2G SD on collie information. After looking a lot for it, finally I find the answer by a PM from a forum mate.

I read many, many posts, to find out that I was repeating topic steps already done.

Sometimes the hood don't let me see the tree.


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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2007, 12:37:19 pm »
Not sure what you mean by " the hood don't let me see the tree", but I know what you mean about searching for answers.  It's hard work, whether you search here or use google.

All I can say is that the more of us who write up what we've learned, clearly and consicely, that we think might help others avoid the same grief, the better.  That's what I try to do with my sites, and just hope people who need the information can find it via google.

That's where contributions to Antikx's handbook are critical.  We are using the wiki there to collaborate our knowledge, but it has a long way to go.

The Main Tyrannozaurus Wiki page is at  http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/Main_Page

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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2007, 08:06:14 pm »
Thanks for the information. Please, forgive my mistakes. Sometimes my english language is not good enough.  
When I said "hood" I mean wood. You know, I'm not one of those wearing hoods (this is a joke)  

For this holidays I've decided to read deeply the forum, and also reorganize all the information that I have been taking last months.

If I'd be able, then I'd be glad to make a little contribution. I hope so.

I have visited Antikx site in the past, but always seeking for any just-in-time information, and I haven't thought about the Wiki.

Thanks for the point and for your patience with me when I get confused, and also when I break your beautiful language down.

Greets.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2007, 09:05:33 pm »
Ah, from España!  You do know about the Spanish subforum here and Mimeca's Spanish forum at http://www.innerzaurus.com/CMS/ I hope.  My impression was quite a few people there also use sl5500's.

I generally ignore language issues except when someone asks me a question directly that I do not understand.  Figure you'd rather explain your question than get no answer to it.

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2007, 11:56:17 am »
Yeah! Spanish subforum and Mimeca's Spanish forum are great, but I like specially the english forum. This is a deeper experience to me. You know, as if I were travelling. Having knowledge from different people.

And, you're right I wouldn't like to get no answer, but also I'm afraid when I don't explain myself well.

But I'll keep on trying, and improving    

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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2007, 10:37:22 pm »
It is an Unix machine and depends what you want and which level of exploration you are heading.

Normal user
  - PIM and good MP3 player should be good enough

Advancde user (like me)
  - Purchase some commercial packages, like Neocal, Tkc Player, to enhance its performance
  - Add high capacilty CF drive
  - Install ZBedic to store Wikipedia, English dictionary
  - Make use of unix commands for system and network tasks.
  - Install Zgcc to facilitate python and PyQt programming
  - Use VisiScript as my IDE for python programming
  - Use Porta-Base as database application
  - Install VNC sever for remote access

In short, it is not an obsolete machine which you can put it in good use and it is really a very reliable hardware to date.