It's A Good Linux Morning

[Capn_Fish]

Alternate window managers/lightweight systems? Games? CLI apps?

That's all for now...

[speculatrix]

I'd like to hear ideas about the best way to get  development environment up and running, assuming that you have a linux desktop ready.

I'd like to hear about the variations of pdaXrom, as I still don't understand which version runs which kernel runs on which hardware and what's stable!

[Capn_Fish]

Setting up stuff like Samba/SSH/VNC over SSH. That may be outside the scope of the show, though.

[Antikx]

Thanks for the suggestions.
We will probably use some in future shows.

Episode 4 is out:
Grab it here: http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=itsagoodlinuxmorning

Here's the show notes:

Exploits of a Switcha'
-Hot-babe

Main feature #1
-All Things Ubuntu? fitting for the new release? Why is ubuntu so popular?

Main feature #2
-The Linux directory structure!

Disclaimer: To our knowledge, Mark Shuttleworth did not exploit anyone.

[Antikx]

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It's out Halloween extravaganza!
In Episode 5 we talk about how important it is (for us) that the Linux desktop get mainstream acceptance and then we head into mounting land.

[speculatrix]

Sorry, but I have to say I was a tad disappointed with number 4 - the explanation of the linux file system was a bit woffly and not particular clear. Much more could have been made of why there's apparent duplication, e.g. /sbin and /usr/sbin, /lib and /usr/lib

May I clarify? Historically, when disks were much smaller, the root file system wouldn't have been very big, and /usr and /opt and /usr/local/ might have been separate disks and thus not mounted when the system boots. Thus, to boot, when the only thing available is the main disk (or disk partition) you need to make all the Special/System binaries (hence /sbin) available - often these are statically linked and do not need /lib and definitely cannot use /usr/lib which can't be guaranteed to be available.

/lib also needs to be on the root disk because kernel modules live in /lib/modules, if they were in /usr/lib/modules then the system wouldn't be able to find device driver modules to load into the kernel.

HTH
Paul

[Antikx]

Super! Thanks for the feedback and info.
The last couple episodes I have felt pressured to finish up so that I could get to work on time, so I am more brief that I should be. We will try to make better us of our time so that a measure of quality can be there for all the segments.
Cheers!

[speculatrix]

felt pressured to finish up so that I could get to work on time

maybe you could record a five minute section over a week and that way you can concentrate on one topic?

[Antikx]

felt pressured to finish up so that I could get to work on time

maybe you could record a five minute section over a week and that way you can concentrate on one topic?

hmmm... we'll talk about it. thanks.

[Antikx]

FYI: Episode 6 - A Fstab in the Dark just came out.

[Antikx]

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FYI: Episode 7 - Is Linux Too Easy Now? is out.

[Capn_Fish]

Great I'm DLing it now and will listen ASAP.

Two things, though:

-The link points to the image above (no a huge deal)
-Which one is the high quality one? One says "high," and the other is just "ogg." Or are they the same?

Thanks!

[Antikx]

thanks. I fixed the link.
High and Low are MP3's and Ogg is ogg.
Perhaps I should change High and Low to indicate that they are MP3's. Because MP3 was the only option, initially a qualifier wasn't needed as much, but I guess now it is.

[speculatrix]

I'm sad to say that after a promising start with the first ones, I think the technical details have been a bit weak or vague on the last couple - I felt like listening to each episode and writing corrections to each point made. However, I did like the banter, and I think I preferred the social commentary more - Antikz's point about whether it mattered if linux beating microsoft to become the dominant desktop was more interesting! The mention of Full Circle was also useful.

So, sorry if this sounds harsh, but I think I'd rather listen to discussion about the uses people are putting linux and their zauruses to, and where they get their hints and tips, rather than a too brief too simplified technical seminar which nebefits neither beginner nor expert.

[Antikx]

I'm sad to say that after a promising start with the first ones, I think the technical details have been a bit weak or vague on the last couple - I felt like listening to each episode and writing corrections to each point made. However, I did like the banter, and I think I preferred the social commentary more - Antikz's point about whether it mattered if linux beating microsoft to become the dominant desktop was more interesting! The mention of Full Circle was also useful.

So, sorry if this sounds harsh, but I think I'd rather listen to discussion about the uses people are putting linux and their zauruses to, and where they get their hints and tips, rather than a too brief too simplified technical seminar which nebefits neither beginner nor expert.

Thanks for the honest feed back. You make some good points.
No worries, I'm not offended. I appreciate the constructive criticism.
I'll mull it over on the weekend.