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jpmatrix

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« Reply #75 on: October 25, 2007, 04:56:27 pm »
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After all, a gadget, or several gadgets, only occupy a very tiny part in our life.
My wife says other things about my gadgets, especially my zaurusses (zauri) ...  

+1
about my zaurus, my psp,  and my nokia phone which is all but something to phone with

sometimes i wonder if i sell all that and buy only one device which can do all ..........

anyway, i'm now trying to have bluetooth working under debian eabi; nearly success i think; still some usual bluetooth pairing trouble though
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« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2007, 12:38:38 am »
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If you feel uneasy about these unjustified and biased and lousy discussions, prove yourself and your good work in your website and your wiki.

It is not *my* site and it is not *my* wiki, and writing docs is certainly not *my* job. I choose to work in system integration and bugfixing, not in documentation, someone that wants docs can write them themselves.
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« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2007, 02:10:52 am »
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..., someone that wants docs can write them themselves.

someone that needs docs, can't.
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« Reply #78 on: October 26, 2007, 05:25:14 am »
That is amazing ...

Can you sell a linux distro to a client who is not nerd/guru/hacker but just any user joe in the world, and tell them "Since you're using my distro, according to the grand scheme of linux, you are obliged to write the manual for us."  Isn't this even worse than RTFM?
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« Reply #79 on: October 26, 2007, 07:35:14 am »
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Right now I am writing the guide, including the bits for setting up EABI. Will post it later tonight.  

Sorry to those who are waiting:
The first draft of the mega installation guide for all C-series models is finished and is now circulating among a few users who are already running Debian/Z. I will post version 2 in the forum this weekend. And I will add version 3 to the OESF wiki finally.

This is just about the installation part. It's very long (13 pages in Word) because it describes all the available installation methods using all the available kernels with both the OABI (the conventional Debian) and the new EABI (armel) system. I have to arrange some other time for writing the second part (FAQs).
Everyone is most welcome to hop on and help each other here.  
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« Reply #80 on: October 26, 2007, 08:21:06 am »
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... (13 pages in Word) ...

Oops, what-a-mistake-a-to-make-a
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« Reply #81 on: October 28, 2007, 04:51:06 am »
I uploaded kernel 2.6.23.1 for eabi patched with angstrom and cpufreq.  

http://yonggun.tistory.com/57
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« Reply #82 on: October 28, 2007, 04:54:20 am »
Lovely!  Now go flashing right away!

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« Reply #83 on: October 28, 2007, 05:03:57 am »
Flash done!
A good piece of cake on Sunday morning.  
Thanks for the kernel!!!

First i have to run ts_calibrate again to tune the stylus pointer.
The jumping pointer bug is gone!
I can write very freely in xorunal now!  
Nice.  
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« Reply #84 on: October 28, 2007, 06:44:19 am »
Another benefit of the kernel installed this way with uboot on the Z :
You can perfectly dual-boot titchy (on SD) and debian armel (eabi on microdrive) or the other way around.

 
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« Reply #85 on: October 28, 2007, 12:06:15 pm »
20r0, can you post your patch sequence for building the kernel?

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« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2007, 09:09:36 pm »
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I uploaded kernel 2.6.23.1 for eabi patched with angstrom and cpufreq.  

http://yonggun.tistory.com/57

Ah, and this one has the libertas module needed for my new wifi card (I hope it will work).  But, no firefox?  I suppose that also means no icedove or thunderbird?  The angstrom feed has these things, but they are nonfunctional -- or were last I knew, and there wasn't a lot of interest then.

What about build environment?  How much of the debian repository is available in armel??

So, when I get the nerve I guess this will be the way I go, but I happen to have a working machine now, and don't want to fsck that up.

Complete installation instructions are where?
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« Reply #87 on: October 28, 2007, 09:14:43 pm »
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I uploaded kernel 2.6.23.1 for eabi patched with angstrom and cpufreq.  

http://yonggun.tistory.com/57

Ah, and this one has the libertas module needed for my new wifi card (I hope it will work).  But, no firefox?  I suppose that also means no icedove or thunderbird?  The angstrom feed has these things, but they are nonfunctional -- or were last I knew, and there wasn't a lot of interest then.

What about build environment?  How much of the debian repository is available in armel??

So, when I get the nerve I guess this will be the way I go, but I happen to have a working machine now, and don't want to fsck that up.

Complete installation instructions are where?

To answer my own post, iceweasel is available in armel --- just apt-get install iceweasel (not called firefox).  This makes this option more viable, if I can actually install it without wasting a week.
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« Reply #88 on: October 29, 2007, 01:33:44 am »
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What about build environment?  How much of the debian repository is available in armel??
So, when I get the nerve I guess this will be the way I go, but I happen to have a working machine now, and don't want to fsck that up.
Complete installation instructions are where?

There is a big guy pinned at the top of the forum. I've already emphasized that this is W.I.P., because it consumes quite a bit of time and energy for a layman joe to manage that.
That guy is just Part I (installation) of the story.
The basic afterinstallation bits will be up soon for testing and checking.
Part II is the FAQs, and it is supposed to be open to everyone here to write it. The plan is also to make it a demi-wiki thread.
Even though there is no draconian rule to force anyone to write about anything, but it is more fun if someone can join in the game. The more the merrier.  

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« Reply #89 on: November 02, 2007, 02:45:53 pm »
well well,
now that my debian eabi is working quite well, i wonder now what version i should use : oabi or eabi ?

on one side we have oabi, which works pretty good although slower than eabi, but quite all packages i've tried were working with just an apt-get (including firefox2...)

on the other side, we have speedy eabi, but with lots of broken packages, some as important as mutt, pidgin, etc....

so i'm really asking myself if i should continue on eabi, switch back to oabi, or ...... try angstrom again...........

what do you think, you zaurusgeeks ?
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