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« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2008, 06:43:19 am »
Here my observations....

Installation went smoothly and besides the already lnown issues with the CF slot I noticed the following issues on my Akita device(C1000):

- tskeys is swallowing 80% of the CPU load after booting. Have to kill it manually, but then the brightness keys do not work any longer.
- CF cards always load the orinoco driver additionally to the hostap for my D-Link WLAN card. This is not the best option as the orinoco driver does not support WPA encryption=> fixed by blacklisting the modules
- firefox needs swap space to work. It takes 3-5 minutes on a standard installation to load it and is unusable due to heap shortages =? repaced firefox by midori
- The WICD network manager (announced on the blog) could not be found in the installation
- sylpheed is not in the start menu, lacks a desktop entry
- no ssh daemon is running so remote access is prohibited=> installed dropbear
- there should be a package manager available => fixed by installing synaptic
- rotation does not work in the standard installation
-  Pidgin segfaults while starting

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« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2008, 08:44:57 am »
Hi,
I'd like to give the Ubuntu installation a try.
Can someone do a step by step guide for beginners like me.
At the moment I'm using Cacko on an SL-C3100 (completely standard).
I have a Belkin USB 10/100 ethernet adaptor (F5D5050) that I can connect to my home
network router and an ADSL internet connection. Do I need a anything else to get started?
I'm running Ubuntu edgy on my desktop PC if that helps.

David.

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« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2008, 09:06:38 am »
Quote from: djsb
Hi,
I'd like to give the Ubuntu installation a try.
Can someone do a step by step guide for beginners like me.
At the moment I'm using Cacko on an SL-C3100 (completely standard).
I have a Belkin USB 10/100 ethernet adaptor (F5D5050) that I can connect to my home
network router and an ADSL internet connection. Do I need a anything else to get started?
I'm running Ubuntu edgy on my desktop PC if that helps.
David.

What do you mean, is the step by step guide not clear enough?
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« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2008, 11:45:44 am »
OK, I have to ask...

From the Mojo page: http://mojo.handhelds.org/node/62

It appears that those Ubuntu packages are built with armv5el optimizations (the best possible for the Z). Are these the ones used in Zubuntu? If so, is it noticeably faster than Debian?

If you can't tell, I'm getting impatient waiting for my Pandora to get here to have a new device/OS to fiddle with.

Thanks.

EDIT: I guess armv5el with VFP would be the best, not just armv5el.
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« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2008, 12:30:57 pm »
Quote from: Capn_Fish
OK, I have to ask...

From the Mojo page: http://mojo.handhelds.org/node/62

It appears that those Ubuntu packages are built with armv5el optimizations (the best possible for the Z). Are these the ones used in Zubuntu? If so, is it noticeably faster than Debian?

If you can't tell, I'm getting impatient waiting for my Pandora to get here to have a new device/OS to fiddle with.

Thanks.

EDIT: I guess armv5el with VFP would be the best, not just armv5el.
Yep, these are ones used in Zubuntu. I've build the additional packages missing in the Mojo repositories natively with the same optimizations.
If I say it's faster than Debian this may well be because of the installed set of applications. For me, in it's current form, it's much faster. But really, you have to try it out yourself to see if you notice any difference.
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« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2008, 01:24:02 pm »
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OK, I have to ask...

...If so, is it noticeably faster than Debian?
For me, in it's current form, it's much faster. But really, you have to try it out yourself to see if you notice any difference.

I find it many times faster than Andromeda, but I also changed to a new SD card.  I went from a Transcend 150x 4gb, to a 16gb Kingston SDHC.  Not sure how much of a factor that would be.  Even python apps run better (pysol is easily 5x faster.  almost no delay).  There could also be other factors I am missing though.

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« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2008, 02:05:33 pm »
How is the amrv5el from Mojo different from Andromedia's base?  I can get fast out of LXDE or Fluxbox from Andro's base.  I am curious though how much faster the Mojo would be running heavier WM's and Apps?
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« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2008, 02:34:01 pm »
I'm not planning on running the standard WM

Optimizations make a BIG difference. Debian armel is made to run on just about any ARM cpu, so it can't optimize for anything higher than that, causing a slowdown. It's like that all-in-one tool that does everything decently, but nothing extremely well.

Time to go dig out my SD card
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« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2008, 03:27:43 pm »
could it be that spitz-root-addition.tar.gz has  a zImage for akita instead of a 3x00 kernel?
I'm trying ubuntu in sl-c3200 and spitz-root-addition.tar.gz zImage gives me an uname -r:
2.6.26-omegamoon-akita
, no modules loaded because modules are not for the included kernel.  any other download link to get a zImage for 3200?

thanks for your work

EDIT: I found a zImage-spitz.bin downloaded some time ago from the comments page of omegamoon and it works, testing it right now. nice  
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« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2008, 09:27:02 pm »
LOL - Well Cap'N you know from my posts I fiddle alot with WM's, especially the main stream ones.   So I will see how well the "optimized" version of debian runs

Will download and experiment with zBuntu very soon it seems.
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« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2008, 10:28:07 pm »
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LOL - Well Cap'N you know from my posts I fiddle alot with WM's, especially the main stream ones.   So I will see how well the "optimized" version of debian runs

Will download and experiment with zBuntu very soon it seems.
I eagerly await your report, as I seem to have lost my big SD card. My 64MB one isn't quite large enough
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« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2008, 04:26:56 am »
I can not boot to the rootfs of the zUbuntu

everytime when I select the multiboot kernel in the first.

why my multiboot can not display the description of the image.info?

just display the partition of the internal CF slot.

/dev/hda1 (ext3)      # Zubuntu Rc1 release.
/dev/hda3 (ext3)      # debian Andromeda

when I select the first one to boot to zubuntu, and the zImage is load to boot,but I wait for the message for so long time "Watiting for root device /dev/hda1...." , can't boot to the next step.
what is the problem with it?

But I can success to boot the debian(second option).
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« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2008, 05:41:16 am »
Thank you very much Cortez for this great release.
I am especially impressed by the speed, even on my cheap sd card. Much better than Andromeda.

As for problems, I have the same as Jon_J with the modules.

Thanks.

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« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2008, 10:42:36 am »
Cannot seem to resolve my CF Wifi cards issue, it just blinks.  Forced into static mode just to get past the "Can't get addrlist" error, which is no small bit annoying, in fact with multiple ip ranges I work with as I go from place to place it's almost a bust.  Have manually edited the interface file, issued the same iwconfig's that worked in every other debian install etc ... still no love.  Works fine in Andromedia

No default way to measure battery life, needs to be fixed for a release (fine for in house).  Apm cli is present in Andromedia by default, figured it or something akin would be in this.

Right Mouse configuration seems to be very limited compared to the "mouse-r & mouse-m" method.

Working on a list of other things, pretty much does not feel "ready for release" too me yet.  Just my opinion, great work and I look forward to the end results.

Sound still hit or miss, mostly miss.  This is another BIG issue too me, and bears weight when comparing to Andromedia.

I have an 8gb card holding this for further tests, but atm its not ready to replace Andromedia on my rig.
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« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2008, 12:17:53 pm »
Just a note on sound. I have tried the below method in both zbuntu and angstrom.
zubuntu I get no sound
angstrom I get sound
I pasted a quote from angstrom mailing list:
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The standard way that I use to test if sound is working on any linux box is this:

cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp

That will play white noise until you hit Ctrl+C, and means that you
don't have to be concerned with knowing application x behaves
correctly or not. If you don't get any sound with the above, play
around with all the controls in alsamixer (ipkg install
alsa-utils-alsamixer) until you hear something.
One other thing, when I reboot back to zubuntu, I get an error about SD card not being properly unmounted, and efsck is automatically ran. several times efsck shows a message that it failed.
I never remove my SD card.
I don't know if this has to do with me booting with two different methods.
Normal method is: reboot and choose angstrom from menu.
Second method is: reboot, and since I cannot boot to cacko directly from the menu, I boot angstrom, then kexec -f to cacko
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