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labcoat

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« on: October 16, 2003, 01:11:47 pm »
I have been using OZ 3.2 since around May.  There are several features I like, but wish that certain applications installed correctly.  I\'ve had trouble with XMMS, MySQL, ScummVM, Strategic Assault, and QtMail.  I notice that it can\'t create alot of the symlinks when installing ipks.  I\'m trying to install to my SD card.  Am I doing something wrong?

OZ has been pretty good to me and has a few features that I like, but I\'ve been reading good things about the tkcROM and even the Sharp 3.10 ROM.  I have also read a few good things about OZ 3.3.1 (dev version).  Is it time I switched ROMs?  Will a new ROM help these app installation issues?  If so, which one should I switch to?

1.  OZ 3.2 ROM
2.  OZ 3.3.1 ROM
3.  tkcROM
4.  Sharp 3.10 ROM

I like the OPIE features.  Will I be able to use them (Today w/ plug-ins, Launcher w/ small icons, etc) with ROMs 3 and 4?

Does anyone have a list of pros/cons and feature differences for these 4 ROMs?

Also, I use WiFi alot with my DLink 660W and would prefer to sync wirelessly.  I have used Qtopia Desktop and Intellisync, but they both have issues.  Any way I can sync PIM data w/o using these?  I use WinSCP to transfer files, so I\'d just need to sync with Outlook.  Is this possible w/o Qtopia/Intellisync?
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2003, 01:25:28 pm »
have you been running \"ipkg-link add {package_name}\".  That should generate the proper links.  Remember, if an app also installs a library, youll need to link it too!
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2003, 04:18:42 pm »
When using the package application, shouldn\'t that create the links for you?  I usually use feeds (from URLs).  Do the ipks download to tmp or something?
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2003, 08:41:28 pm »
Some do, some dont.  I dont trust the ipks to make the links for me, so i just run ipkg-link after as part of a routine.  Im not sure where ipks are temporarily downloaded to.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2003, 02:53:58 am »
This is probably not quite related to your post, but is related to missing links.

I found that many packages would not install on the SD card until I reformatted it as ext2.  When it was left as VFAT (as purchased) links would not get created.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2003, 11:23:20 am »
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This is probably not quite related to your post, but is related to missing links.

I found that many packages would not install on the SD card until I reformatted it as ext2.  When it was left as VFAT (as purchased) links would not get created.

that\'s because the DOS file system doesn\'t handle links the same way as linux.  If you have an SD card that is used only for storage on your Z and never get\'s used anywhere else, then you should definately format it native linux ext2.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2003, 02:10:22 pm »
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the DOS file system doesn\'t handle links the same way as linux.  If you have an SD card that is used only for storage on your Z and never get\'s used anywhere else, then you should definately format it native linux ext2.
You don\'t have to do that with the Sharp 3.x ROM or tkcROM. They use Sharp\'s new graphical installer which is much improved and can install packages that contain symlinks to a FAT formatted SD/CF card because it relocates the symlinks to internal memory as appropriate.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2003, 09:15:24 pm »
Yes and no.  ext2 is a better file system than vfat.  Period.  If the card is only used in your zaurus, you should DEFINATELY format it ext2 if for no other reason than because ext2 is a better file system than vfat.  If it reduces install errors, that\'s great, icing on the cake, if not, it\'s still a more stable file system
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2003, 09:24:56 pm »
Well I have seen more reports of people having problems with ext2 formatted SD cards than FAT formatted cards.

YMMV, but technically speaking ext2 isn\'t really suitable for removable media because it is so easily corrupted, espcially just by not unmounting it properly. FAT usually survives being umounted improperly.

If you want to be able to set permissions on files on your SD/CF card or put symlinks on the cards or use them with OZ then yes, ext2 is about your only option.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2003, 03:22:38 pm »
That\'s what I ended up doing.  I formatted the SD in ext2 and things are working better now.  Speaking of unmounting, is the proper way to use the unmounting applet in OZ?  It usually detects when I just pull a card out, and I realize that it\'s the same as yanking a hard drive, but I guess I should take the time to use the applet if I don\'t want to hose up everything, huh?
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2003, 05:20:44 pm »
hi,
i\'m new here - great site!!
tho i\'ve used my zaurus for awhile, i\'ve only started playing with command line functions. recently upgraded the ROM on my model SL-5000 to Sharp 1.39, and playing with ipkg in term.
issue: cannot install to SD (SanDisk 256) with proper links (from term).
tried to install the ipkg_0.99.62-1, which i downloaded, but it fails on \'not in gzip format\' and \'ERROR unpacking control.tar\'.
i do copy mp3 files to the sd from a Win desktop, so ext2 is not a great option for me.
any ideas?
should i try a different ROM? (must synch with my address book data in Qtopia desktop)
thx,
m
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2003, 06:22:48 am »
michelle: after installing with \"ipkg -d sd packageName_version_arm.ipk\" you need to link it to the root filesystem with \"ipkg-link add packageName\". The graphic installer in Settings ] Packages does this for you but with command line it\'s a separate step.

labcoat: the graphic installer (Settings ] Packages) seems to run ipkg-link 3 times, I don\'t know why. The first pass is usually OK but the second and third are bound to fail (since the links are already created). This used to confuse me, too, but I\'ve found that packages work fine most of the time. It is, however, a good idea to scroll up and see whether the first batch went through correctly.

Another thing is that sometimes packages contain a \".\" entry (in addition to various \"./directories\"). ipkg-link then tries to create a link named \"/.\" and it fails (no offense to Slashdotters intended :wink: ). This is also harmless.

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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2003, 08:01:34 am »
Hi z,
Thanks for the reply. I did try ipkg-link (and tried it again, just in case i had fat fingers), but I got an error (ipkg-link: command not found), which is why i figured I had to replace the \'ipkg\' which was part of the Sharp dist. Funny thing is, it will create proper links when installed through graphic tool.
In /home/QtPalmtop/bin/ I\'ve only got ipkg and ipkg-compare-versions.
thx,
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