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« on: February 04, 2016, 05:52:42 am »
For those of you still searching for a Z replacement: a new clamshell console with a built-in keyboard has been announced:

http://liliputing.com/2016/01/gpd-plans-to...-trail-cpu.html

GDP has in the past already released some clamshell consoles (albeit without a keyboard), like the GPD XD, with some very positive reviews (like this: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/11/h...digital_gpd_xd), so this looks like an interesting project. The measurements haven't been released yet, but since it has a 5.5" display I guess it will be more or less big as an SL-C. It will ship with Windows 10 and eventually Android unfortunately; Linux support might be problematic as explained here:

http://boards.dingoonity.org/gpd-devices/p...7781/#msg137781

I hope that the designers will eventually shed some light on this. The designers are open to any comment and request on the Dingoonity forum thread posted above.
Thanks to Tomoe on #zaurus for the URL!

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2016, 07:04:08 am »
3D print size comparisons show the device size in similarity to GPD XD. Sounds a neat device!

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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2016, 07:59:24 am »
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3D print size comparisons show the device size in similarity to GPD XD. Sounds a neat device!
Good find! So:

SL-C xx00: 124 x 87 x 25mm
GDP Win:   155 x 94 x 24mm

The GDP handheld will be then quite wider (+31 mm) and a bit deeper (+ 7 mm) than the SL-C. I would have preferred it to be smaller, but at least it should still fit into a (larger) pocket.

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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2016, 10:37:58 pm »
If you want a linux based clamshell, check out the upcoming Pyra....successor to the great OpenPandora....

Very much in the open source spirit....

https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/

https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/



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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2016, 05:33:00 pm »
I just merged in my duplicate post
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the Pyra is damn expensive! and still not available.

I think the GPD is more likely to come through


https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win-...-console-laptop


It achieved its goal. The specs are fairly good -
* a high end Atom X7-X8750 cpu,
* 4GB RAM,
* 64GB flash,
* 5.5" 720p touch screen with HDMI,
* dual-band wifi and bluetooth,
* stereo speakers,
* keyboard and joysticks...
* memory card slot,
* USB etc,

http://www.gpd.hk/gpdwin.asp



There seems to be some interest in this from various communities:
* XDA - http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10...pd-win-t3363923
* dingoonity - http://boards.dingoonity.org/gpd-devices/
* http://forum.gpd.hk/f6-gpd-win
« Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 07:02:47 am by speculatrix »
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2016, 05:48:27 pm »
Maybe Banggood will have them soon
http://www.banggood.com/GPD-WIN-64GB-Intel...-p-1060199.html


GPD say October 2016, so in theory any day now, right?
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2016, 06:54:57 pm »
The GPD is nice, but the keyboard is not as good as the Pyra.....

GPD if you want to run Windows and Pyra if you want to run Debian or other linux distro.....

And Pyra is in final stages of production tweaking (see Pyra forum.....). Developer units are out and in hands of devs....

Pre-orders are being taken.....

If all goes well, Pyra will be out by end of year....
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2016, 08:52:13 pm »
I must say it is tempting, but first I'd like to see reports saying if and how well Linux runs on it.

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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016, 10:01:35 pm »
There's already some videos demonstrating Pyra works.....

For General info:

https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/

Forums have lots of good info and regular updates from ED who's producting them.

https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/

 
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2016, 11:19:07 am »
I purchased a GPD Win so can review/test when they come in (hopefully in a few weeks if they are on schedule).
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2016, 12:19:54 pm »
Quote from: TheWalt
I purchased a GPD Win so can review/test when they come in (hopefully in a few weeks if they are on schedule).

I'm looking forward to your review.


excellent, I hope you get on well with it.

I, and a bunch of other people, have invested a fair bit of time working with a Baytrail Z3735F based device, so we might be able to help you, or at least the list archives might be useful, especially if you need a bit of advice about UEFI booting etc.
https://www.tinc-vpn.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/click
https://www.tinc-vpn.org/pipermail/click/
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2016, 03:51:18 am »
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Look forward to your review too......and especially about the keyboard....

+1... I'd also like to have a new, modern Zaurus replacement.

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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2016, 02:02:40 pm »
One of the GPD guys did reply that the unit uses a standard 64bit UEFI, so in theory there is hope.

If not, this person got ubuntu running under emulation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsNZk0ydqeQ
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2016, 01:36:40 am »
Looks pretty good.......
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2016, 07:01:19 am »
You can boot 64 bit linux when you only have 32 bit UEFI firmware, as there's a UEFI "shim" that modern linuxes use.


The way I got Debian installed on my Baytrail device was to use the Debian Multi-arch ISO:
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/curren...ti-arch/iso-cd/

I had to attach a USB network adaptor, like one of these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Multiport-Compact-...s/dp/B00YAR30VA
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