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« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2016, 03:22:59 am »
Good news, especially that you had no problems receiving a working model reasonably promptly.
I should hope that xrandr will do the trick.

Maybe you can try RemixOS too.

Did Wi-Fi and Bluetooth work without fuss? Any sound?

My Baytrail device mostly works but Linux isn't stable, depending on the exact kernel and patches it will hard lock between tens of seconds and tens of minutes. This is what makes me worried about buying the GPD Win.
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« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2016, 09:20:58 am »
Sorry, didn't do much with it....as it was very awkward navigating around screen with it being rotated 90 degrees.....

Will try it again with xrandr and see if I can get it oriented correctly and then test out wifi, etc....
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« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2016, 01:00:33 pm »
Tried adding 'xrandr -o right' to Grub boot parameters. But get message 'xrandr not found'......

I booted up with screen rotated and then checked WiFi....it works!

Opened up terminal and was able to use it.....even though it is sideways on display.

Tried 'xrandr -o right' and screen went black.

Found webpage with info about rotating screen. Tried what was suggested, but screen went black.

So, main issue now is getting screen rotated correctly....

Any ideas???

Thanks.

PS.  Phawx who has posted lots of WIN videos and posts over at http://boards.dingoonity.org/gpd-devices/g...indiegogo/5430/ says he got Xubuntu running and screen rotation correct. He says the gui has rotation options. Will check if Linux Mint has it too...[UPDATE: Linux Mint has it too, but screen went black after I selected rotation option.

Also learned that used a modded version of Xubuntu from this site:

http://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/2016/10/...-trail-and.html

I just tried running it, but after it starts to boot up, the screen goes black.....just read notes on the webpage and it says:

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Some cautionary advice:

The initial menu screen takes slightly longer to appear than with the official ISOs. Depending on the speed of the USB drive used it can be anything from fifteen to forty-five seconds before anything appears on the screen.

After installing with a 32-bit bootloader booting sometimes results just in a blank/coloured (e.g. purple) screen.

To prevent this and to ensure a successful boot it is best boot through the BIOS menu followed by selecting the Ubuntu option.

If dual booting with Windows I recommend installing/re-installing 64-bit Windows to circumvent this issue if your device supports it.

Also, someone else posted they got Arch running with correct rotation with some tweaking. Tried what he did in terminal in Linux Mint, but screen went black.

https://m.reddit.com/r/gpdwin/comments/5ac1...mp;compact=true
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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2016, 06:56:45 am »
someone on the GPD forum posted they had Fedora running, overcame the screen rotation, said something about wifi problems

http://forum.gpd.hk/t23-linux-on-the-gpd-win#173

I added a comment and suggested the person came here.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2016, 06:59:32 am by speculatrix »
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2016, 11:22:27 am »
Thanks for sharing this...

Good to see another example where someone got screen rotated.

I still have not been able to rotate screen....always goes black when I try....

Have tried:

- Linux Mint

- Xubuntu (worked OK for someone else...)

- Lubuntu


While have not figured out how to rotate display, most other things seem to work OK, including WiFi....
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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2016, 11:28:40 am »
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I still have not been able to rotate screen....always goes black when I try....
Have you seen this, in the same thread?

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This is using KDE and Fedora 24
For the screen rotation, we waited until the desktop booted and the display options to rotate the screen.
then the kshell processed needs to be killed and restarted for it to behave properly.

and

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Gnome didn't work when we tried so that's how we ended up with KDE.

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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2016, 11:53:06 am »
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Quote from: ArchiMark
I still have not been able to rotate screen....always goes black when I try....
Have you seen this, in the same thread?

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This is using KDE and Fedora 24
For the screen rotation, we waited until the desktop booted and the display options to rotate the screen.
then the kshell processed needs to be killed and restarted for it to behave properly.

and

Quote
Gnome didn't work when we tried so that's how we ended up with KDE.

Varti

Yes, saw that post.....thanks....

Very interesting, how rotation is able to work in some cases and not in others....

So far, one person got rotation in Arch....

One person got rotation in Xubuntu.....

And one person in Fedora 24/KDE......
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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2016, 05:13:45 am »
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Quote from: Varti
Quote from: ArchiMark
I still have not been able to rotate screen....always goes black when I try....
Have you seen this, in the same thread?

Quote
This is using KDE and Fedora 24
For the screen rotation, we waited until the desktop booted and the display options to rotate the screen.
then the kshell processed needs to be killed and restarted for it to behave properly.

and

Quote
Gnome didn't work when we tried so that's how we ended up with KDE.

Varti

Yes, saw that post.....thanks....

Very interesting, how rotation is able to work in some cases and not in others....

So far, one person got rotation in Arch....

One person got rotation in Xubuntu.....

And one person in Fedora 24/KDE......

I am just guessing here as I do not have one of these but it may depend on if the Linux kernel boots with modesetting enabled or not, as well as if there is fbdev rotation enabled in the kernel.
You can disable mode-setting with kernel parameter "nomodeset"

Kernel parameter to rotate legacy framebuffer (FBDEV)
Code: [Select]
fbcon=rotate:

This option changes the orientation angle of the console display. The
value 'n' accepts the following:

0 - normal orientation (0 degree)
1 - clockwise orientation (90 degrees)
2 - upside down orientation (180 degrees)
3 - counterclockwise orientation (270 degrees)

If you boot up Mint or any other Linux to X, can you find out what Xorg driver is loaded ? Xorg log file ?

You can rotate with with "xrandr" once Xorg is loaded or via parameter passed to Xorg.

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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2016, 05:25:17 am »
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Got WIN today!

Overall, very cool pocketable computer....

Doesn't seem like a whole lot larger than Zaurus clamshell models...although it is larger....

Build is pretty good....

Can you post a picture to compare size  ?

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Display is sharp and pretty vivid.

How is viewing angle ? Can you see from right and left a clear screen , sharp and correct colours ?

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Keyboard is OK....not great, but you will get used to it after a bit....

What is the keymap like under linux, can you do all F1-F12 , SHIFT, ALT, CTRL etc ..

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Plugged in USB stick to try out Linux Mint 18......

Good news it boots up fine and you get to desktop as expected.

Bad news is that Greg suspected, just like BIOS settings screen is rotated sideways, so it Linux Mint.....

So, that would need fixing....but it can be done, then linux should work great.....

See my other post about this, this can be fixed. Depends on driver support for hardware rotation.

Maybe I need to get one....
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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2016, 05:29:57 am »
I think if more than four people get one it would be useful to set up a couple of sub-forums for this device - hardware hacking, windows hacking and linux hacking... anyone agree?
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2016, 05:36:38 am »
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I think if more than four people get one it would be useful to set up a couple of sub-forums for this device - hardware hacking, windows hacking and linux hacking... anyone agree?

Indeed, but I will wait a bit, get some log files and more hardware details from a running recent Linux kernel first, before ordering one.
Saying that, they may have limited stock and it may be best to get in line now if you are very keen.
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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2016, 05:41:17 am »
Looks like dragonbox is out of stock already, others on pre-order - guess too late...
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« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2016, 08:39:28 am »
Finally got mine but have been too busy (trying to sell a house) to do much other than the two day windows update process *sigh*  At least count me in on the "soon to be testing linux distros" list.
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« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2016, 09:16:56 am »
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Quote from: ArchiMark
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I still have not been able to rotate screen....always goes black when I try....
Have you seen this, in the same thread?

Quote
This is using KDE and Fedora 24
For the screen rotation, we waited until the desktop booted and the display options to rotate the screen.
then the kshell processed needs to be killed and restarted for it to behave properly.

and

Quote
Gnome didn't work when we tried so that's how we ended up with KDE.

Varti

Yes, saw that post.....thanks....

Very interesting, how rotation is able to work in some cases and not in others....

So far, one person got rotation in Arch....

One person got rotation in Xubuntu.....

And one person in Fedora 24/KDE......

I am just guessing here as I do not have one of these but it may depend on if the Linux kernel boots with modesetting enabled or not, as well as if there is fbdev rotation enabled in the kernel.
You can disable mode-setting with kernel parameter "nomodeset"

Kernel parameter to rotate legacy framebuffer (FBDEV)
Code: [Select]
fbcon=rotate:

This option changes the orientation angle of the console display. The
value 'n' accepts the following:

0 - normal orientation (0 degree)
1 - clockwise orientation (90 degrees)
2 - upside down orientation (180 degrees)
3 - counterclockwise orientation (270 degrees)

If you boot up Mint or any other Linux to X, can you find out what Xorg driver is loaded ? Xorg log file ?

You can rotate with with "xrandr" once Xorg is loaded or via parameter passed to Xorg.

Cheers!

Will try 'nomodeset'.....

Did try fbcon=rotate:1 and xrandr -o right as per guy who got Arch running....

https://www.reddit.com/r/gpdwin/comments/5a...on_the_gpd_win/

But did not work for me......screen turned black....

I can check Xorg driver and log file later.....

So far, xrandr just causes screen to go black....it has worked sometimes for others....
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« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2016, 10:23:37 am »
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Looks like dragonbox is out of stock already, others on pre-order - guess too late...
They'll probably do a second production batch, but this depends on how long will Intel keep producing the CPU:
https://liliputing.com/2016/07/gpd-win-hand...ead-launch.html
https://lpxshow.com/lpx-episode-9-funeral-f...atom-processor/

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