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Lyall Pearce

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[False alarm]SMS: Not all recipients recieve message
« on: March 17, 2018, 10:11:58 pm »
I don't use 'Messaging' because all of my contacts have phone numbers in the format +61 4xx xxx xxx, including spaces.
So, Messaging refuses to work because of this formatting. I am not going to edit hundreds of phone numbers, in particular, removing the international prefix.

I installed 'Messages' version 2.9.052 from the Google store and disabled 'Messaging'.
'Messages' seems to have an issue with multiple recipients, whereby not all addressees actually receive a group message.
I tried sending multiple messages to the group and to individuals only, an individual in the group consistently failed to receive messages whilst I can send an SMS directly to the individual.

Basically, I am unhappy if I can't rely on my SMS app to actually work!

Can anyone suggest an SMS App or setting that reliably sends SMS/MMS messages?
« Last Edit: March 21, 2018, 08:44:36 pm by Lyall Pearce »
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2018, 05:31:37 pm »
Hmm, that is strange...
"So, Messaging refuses to work because of this formatting" -> do you mean the default android text message app? "Messaging"?

Using Messaging I am able to send an SMS to a +XX XX XXXX XXXX number...

Do you have this same issue on another android phone?

Maybe as a test, change the number of just that one individual, to - for example, remove the spaces or something, and then test a group txt again, and see if that makes a difference?
Also, make sure the number is set as "mobile" against that contact, and that you don't have any off unicode or some funny characters in that number.

I dunno if Google would have such a defect in their own app... Google built the libphonenumber library which can basically figure out any phone number in an any country (I have used this myself): https://github.com/googlei18n/libphonenumber
And they use their own lib in their own app: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/p...mberHelper.java

Were you sending as SMS or MMS? If you type a too long message, Messaging will automatically convert it to an MMS... For your troublesome recipient to receive an MMS, their APN on their phone needs to be set up for this...
Perhaps your group test was an MMS, but your second, direct test was SMS?

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2018, 08:44:03 pm »
Quote from: bogomips
Hmm, that is strange...
"So, Messaging refuses to work because of this formatting" -> do you mean the default android text message app? "Messaging"?

Using Messaging I am able to send an SMS to a +XX XX XXXX XXXX number...

Do you have this same issue on another android phone?

Maybe as a test, change the number of just that one individual, to - for example, remove the spaces or something, and then test a group txt again, and see if that makes a difference?
Also, make sure the number is set as "mobile" against that contact, and that you don't have any off unicode or some funny characters in that number.

I dunno if Google would have such a defect in their own app... Google built the libphonenumber library which can basically figure out any phone number in an any country (I have used this myself): https://github.com/googlei18n/libphonenumber
And they use their own lib in their own app: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/p...mberHelper.java

Were you sending as SMS or MMS? If you type a too long message, Messaging will automatically convert it to an MMS... For your troublesome recipient to receive an MMS, their APN on their phone needs to be set up for this...
Perhaps your group test was an MMS, but your second, direct test was SMS?
I am migrating from an iPhone.
All my phone numbers are in +61 xxx xxx xxx format, every single one of them.
I moved from 'Messaging' to 'Messages'
When multiple recipients were set, it sent MMS.
It appears I had 'Group Messaging' set to MMS, I have changed it to SMS, I will report back.
I will also try reverting to 'Messaging' to do some more fiddling...
Having uninstalled 'Messages' and reverted to 'Messaging' it appeared to work with 2 recipients.

Hmm... Will mark this thread as a false alarm and monitor...
...Lyall