Big announcement on 5th November

[gymbo]

So, while the changes might not hit your sweet spot, they really do for me. Plus I assume I can ask Scotty to beam me up with it.

So THAT is what the "out of this world" means...

But where will you end up if (when?) you get beamed up???

(And although you can ask Scotty to beam you up with it, are you really sure he would...?      )

[speculatrix]

It's good that there's lively discussions. but...

Some of the comments in this thread were not in keeping with the high standards* we expect on this forum, so I either deleted them or edited.

Some of the comments were more quote than comment, so I pruned them. I know this forum's editor isn't the easiest to use, hopefully one day we'll be able to upgrade to something a bit better, but please try to only quote one previous comment in order to prevent quote overload.





* simply: "be nice, be reasonable."

[andrewl]

There must have been something said off the record that caused some people to get excited about a linux supported device. As I understood, Gemini has always been Android focused with Debian and other linux offered as a secondary boot option for hack-play. I think Planet hoped for a community uptake to enhance the compatibility with linux.

One thing I know is that developing low level accelerated video drivers is not child's play so I had no expectations of any serious linux based device - though I am faintly hopeful that Sailfish 3 will provide a direct boot single OS option that will allow me to remove the repulsive Android completely.

I have been using the Sailfish option since it was available, which is far from perfect but still infinitely preferable to Android. I hope that Jolla don't get sidetracked from Gemini to focus on Cosmo Smallpiece.

[salvomic]

I agree, Andrew, my greatest preoccupation is that PC should neglect Gemini and mostly development of Linux part, but also Android should go *soon* to Oreo ( and maybe to v9 (Pie), as 7.1 is nowadays too old...
Often I "play" with Debian in Gemini, but it should be developed in many parts: cellular part, improvements in various other parts... However I like it and I like the possibility for the user to install it at boot.
I tried a few times Sailfish as I know few about, but it is surely a good alternative Linux and also nice to see.
I do hope PC, after this "storm" of news about Cosmo, returns to Gemini with firmware updates and so on
They should also thing whether there is a way to implement a possibility to use OTA also in those systems that are multi boot or "Rooted Android": a lot of users don't try those systems fearing to upgrade Gemini via a program and an USB cable; it would be better to use simply OTA also...
In a word: a more friendly manner to enjoy our Gemini.
Ah, yeah: for now I rest with Gemini and I dear say to say that I like the Gemini look more and more than Cosmo (but I'm a nostalgic "Psionist")

salvo

[gidds]

Also sore to see a lack of any pointing devices.

I can't help thinking that if you need a mouse or trackpad, then you're not using the right UI for this form factor!

(I'm not getting at Linux specifically here, but common desktop-based UIs are never going to feel very natural on a small device with a touchscreen.  Doesn't Sailfish show how much better an alternative can work?)