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« on: May 18, 2004, 04:50:48 pm »
If so, please PM me, or just email directly to em@BattleQuest.com (no file too large)....but please, no spammers or tom-foolery.  Thanks

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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2004, 08:44:45 pm »
There is NO full manual in English, the only manual available in English is on the TriSoft site.

THe Cxx0 series were designed and marketed for release only in Japan, so Shap Japan hasn\'t bothered to translate the manual. I requested one from Sharp in Tokyo and they told me \"Gomenasai, arimasen desu!\" - Sorry we don\'t have it.

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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2004, 09:01:40 pm »
I have another manual, about the same length as the TriSoft document, from Dynamism, which has much of the same information with a few other pointers.  Between the two it gives you enough to get started, but not nearly what you need - I\'ve spent hours and hours and hours here...

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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2004, 10:48:26 pm »
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There is NO full manual in English, the only manual available in English is on the TriSoft site.

THe Cxx0 series were designed and marketed for release only in Japan, so Shap Japan hasn\'t bothered to translate the manual. I requested one from Sharp in Tokyo and they told me \"Gomenasai, arimasen desu!\" - Sorry we don\'t have it.

Stu


Well can someone send me the trisoft version ???
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2004, 02:15:05 am »
You guys read the instructions?

Wow, I never thought of that... :shock:


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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2004, 06:42:35 am »
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You guys read the instructions?

Wow, I never thought of that... :shock:


John


Genrally not right away, but I find there are Always great little nuggest of tricks and stuff tucked away in the nooks and crannies of any halfway decent manual.

I figure it might save on newbie questions, or help answer nagging issues.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2004, 02:13:40 am »
I won\'t send it too you, but I\'ll give you the link so you can download it yourself

http://www.trisoft.de/pdf/c750qse.pdf

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2004, 05:09:00 am »
Hmm, just wondering here - but if the Jpanese manual is on the CD that comes with the C860(I am speculating, still waiting for my C860, so I don\'t know if the Japanese manual is in soft copy on the CD - can anyone confirm??), it could be possible to translate it via Babelfish etc?

But I guess that the problem would be with the translations not being very accurate - but at least it could give a good idea of what\'s going on?

Am I just being nuts or do you guys think it is possible?

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2004, 06:07:02 am »
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Hmm, just wondering here - but if the Jpanese manual is on the CD that comes with the C860(I am speculating, still waiting for my C860, so I don\'t know if the Japanese manual is in soft copy on the CD - can anyone confirm??), it could be possible to translate it via Babelfish etc?

But I guess that the problem would be with the translations not being very accurate - but at least it could give a good idea of what\'s going on?

Am I just being nuts or do you guys think it is possible?

Cheers!


Well, BalroG, if *you* are \"nuts\" then I must be beyond hope <G>. Translating the manual pdfs & the htm* files is a task that I\'ve been working on as time allows ever since I got my C860.

Nothing comprehensive yet, but in progress & willing to collaborate.

One big problem is that most non Japanese software chokes on characters in the file names & subdirectories. The only way that I was able to extract most of the files was using a Wind-Hozed util named ISO-Buster. It allowed them to be renamed before copy to disk.

And getting the pdfs converted into character set readable by the C860 translation software was ........ lets just say \"a *real* challange\"..

Don\'t know if they could be posted as they are or not. Would need legal advice or permission from Sharp, I think. Translated, should be a different matter.


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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2004, 01:34:53 am »
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I won\'t send it too you, but I\'ll give you the link so you can download it yourself

http://www.trisoft.de/pdf/c750qse.pdf

Stu


Thanks Bear, But looking for he Whole enchilada, not just the Quick Setup Guide (which is what you link is a link to).

I mam sure there are lots of great little nuggets of info in the FULL maunual, that we will only know about if translated.

Plus, a BIG benefit is that more US users would buy it if the manual was available in English.

Not saying we NEED it, but it woudl be nice to have...
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2004, 06:55:31 am »
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I have another manual, about the same length as the TriSoft document, from Dynamism, which has much of the same information with a few other pointers.  Between the two it gives you enough to get started, but not nearly what you need - I\'ve spent hours and hours and hours here...
Mike


I understand that you want to know as much as possible
about your Zaurus, but the japanese manual won\'t help
you here.

All \"interesting\" points like f.e. the DiagMenu are NOT
public in any way. SHARP japan is not providing NAND-
Backups because they don\'t want the customers to use
the diag. If you want to see a totally shocked japanese
technician, tell him you use the diag *LOL* !

OK, now serious.
I personally love good manuals, but when we started to
make the SL-C series available in europe in June 2003
we discussed what is really needed and came to the
following conclusion:

1st: Users buying a Zaurus are NOT buying a PDA.
Zaurus customers have a VERY good idea what they
are doing with the device and are VERY professional.
That\'s why we love the Zaurus and the Zaurus users
so much :-) .

2nd: Regarding point 1, most ppl. own a Zaurus model
before. What they need is to know about the differences
between the models and what\'s needed to use the SL-C
for their purposes, that does not include the GUI applications.

3rd: So we cover only the \"how to handle it\", \"what do
the buttons mean\", \"how to install the software\" etc. in our
manual. If anybody wants to know about the apps, he
may download the SL-5500 Rom 3.1 manual from
www.myzaurus.com
where all the GUI apps are excellent described (and
nealy exactly same as in the SL-C models).

Until now, we had no complains about this. We just see
a LOT of downloads for the manual and the NAND and
localized backup sets *LOL*.

But if we forgot anything important, please drop us a
line to zaurus@trisoft.de .

OK, that was a long post, but i thought that this point
needs a little in-depth explanation.

Mac

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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2004, 08:23:44 am »
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Thanks Bear, But looking for he Whole enchilada, not just the Quick Setup Guide (which is what you link is a link to).

I mam sure there are lots of great little nuggets of info in the FULL maunual, that we will only know about if translated.  

Plus, a BIG benefit is that more US users would buy it if the manual was available in English.

Not saying we NEED it, but it woudl be nice to have...


Ahh you see, you missed the point of my first post - there is NO full manual in English and Sharp does not plan to make one. I rang them and asked for one - living in Japan it\'s only a local call, the customer rep I spoke to said that as the Cxx0 series is only being sold in Japan there are no plans to tranlsate the manual to English - when i asked about Gaijin living in Japan I got a shoganai (loosely translates to \"shit happens\")

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