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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2005, 10:28:33 pm »
Here is the specs via there pdf on it. If you wanna contact them with your questions I have a mail for you. He said he would love to hear everyones goods and bads. handhelds@buytoughpc.com
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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2005, 11:08:58 pm »
12 hour battery life, and that's with wireless connectivity on? It doesn't look that bad, I think. My major problems with it would be those already mentioned: Windows CE, and the lack of a keyboard, although I can live with the latter if necessary.
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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2005, 10:45:52 am »
Now when they say it supports WinCE and Qtopia, is that both at the same time (as partitioned spaces) or either/or ?

I guess part of the premium would be for having to pay both MS and Trolltech for two platforms (dont know if the Qtopia is indeed the commercial one from Trolltech - must be). If it indeed does support switching between the two platforms as easily as many dual boot systems like QT and PDAXROM, then that must be an added advantage (though I dont see why I would ever switch to the WinCE part of the system).

But still a non-VGA display without a keyboard too doesnt really cut the mustard.
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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2005, 10:52:57 am »
I believe this is an "either" or solution
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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2005, 11:53:49 am »
if olympus really wants feedback, then here is mine:
3 models
1). small light, cheap qvga no keyboard $300
2). midrange ,vga a little more grunt, min 64 megs ram,  not sure about keyboard @ $450-500?  might still get hosed by the z clamshells....
3). micro laptop/clamshell design, maybe even a little heftier than the z clamshells
possibly dual arm, or something with floating point?? possibly 800x600 display- no less than vga, plenty of ram usb, plenty of expansion, onboard wireless & bluetooth. this would justify the $1000 plus pricetag.
keep in mind that the price of the oly 1000 is laptop range....without being functionally competitive.
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« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2005, 12:48:44 pm »
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... however I tend to think that whomever wrote the press release probably got confused.
Well, then the art department did too because the picture clearly shows WinCE without the PocketPC shell
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Thanks, your eyes are obviously better than mine. I hadn't really studied the pictures closely.
The spec sheet posted by Streamline also confirms the Wince 4.2. Ah well, another device dead in the water before it is actually released. I can only conclude that they are aiming it at the rugeddised industrial market, competing with Symbol, Psion-Teklogic, etc.
It doesn't seem to offer any compelling reason for the average PDA user or hacker to get one. For Linux hackers, we are far better served by the Zaurus devices, and for those that want the other OS, the Dell Axims or HP Ipaqs seem to have the market pretty much tied up (and have a host of 3rd party apps that the Olympus won't run).
At this point, unless Trolltech manages to get some heavyweight phone manufacturers on board, I think that Sharp has effectivley killed the Linux PDA market outside of Asia,
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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2005, 01:38:05 pm »
I don't know if sharp has killed the linux pda market outside asia. I think it is more a matter there being no well-thought-out reasonably priced devices being marketed today. Right now, those who know can import, tomorrow things may be different.
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« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2005, 06:13:36 pm »
Specs are very strange: what is the CPU speed? What is the actual capacity of the battery - XX hours means nothing to me. Is battery replacable? No SD slot? No USB host?

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« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2005, 09:54:02 pm »
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I believe this is an "either" or solution
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One good thing about it being windows and linux compatable, is that if this device fails in the market they can't blame it on linux.
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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2005, 01:15:51 am »
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At this point, unless Trolltech manages to get some heavyweight phone manufacturers on board, I think that Sharp has effectivley killed the Linux PDA market outside of Asia,
Regards,
Clive
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2005, 04:41:40 am »
I think that the high price is cuz it´s "Rugged" all PDAs of that kind have prices that no normal person would pay for the features included (as a PDA) but as said befor it will not be a compedition to what Sybol does you cant even add a Barcodescanner, Memory (no SD???)

the only thing I like about this Device is that you realy have an opion on the OS if sharp had done something like that, Sharp would be a big-player.

A lot of Managers in my company like my c3000 when they first see it all I hear is "that is what I want" but when they see my tux-background   and No M$ logo thy notice that this is not the device they want, they just dont want to spend there time to learn linux or spend hours on how to get a specific app to run and so on (dont get me wrong I like that   ), sad but true...  

but mybe olympus is just starting and we will see some more nicer PDA´s in the future with option to decide what OS fits most.
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2005, 12:30:07 pm »
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At this point, unless Trolltech manages to get some heavyweight phone manufacturers on board, I think that Sharp has effectivley killed the Linux PDA market outside of Asia,
Regards,
Clive
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Sounds promising. Can you divulge a little more ?? Or at least a ballpark date?

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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2005, 05:37:00 pm »
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One good thing about it being windows and linux compatable, is that if this device fails in the market they can't blame it on linux.
One good thing about the olympus being either WinCE or Linux, is that if there's a security breach, they can blame it on WinCE :-)
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