bidi text in Opera

[peli]

Hey.  I was wondering if anyone has RTL languages working in Opera.  Right now I'm using Opera 7.55 off IBM's site.  Old style visual hebrew works fine on my 5600; but most sites have moved away (thankfully) from that and on to logical text flow.  Is there a hack to fix this (pref. on the fly, it would suck to have to quit and restart just to change a code page.  I really like Opera on the Z in general, but I would consider switching for this feature.  I have seen press announcements claiming mobile Opera has Arabic support; but there doesn't seem to be any support page for ARM linux Opera on their site... any help would be appreciated.  

Also, far less important:
1)has anyone gotten general QT hebrew input working?  Are any Z programs bidi/Unicode aware?
2)is there a shortcut or a way to close a current window without using the window icon in Opera?
memory use in Opera tends to crash QT on my Z, sometimes even after being shutdown. I would love a quick way to close pop ups/new windows after they have loaded.

Thanks all!

[shula]

Hebrew on Zaurus - conclusions so far:

first and fastest: install pdaXrom.
i'm running "Kathrin rc8", and hebrew works with "nikud" (the punctuation markers) simply "out of the box" !!!
this version seems very stable and useful. however, i dont use specialized PIM programs, so i dont know about that, david.
(off topic: i use my own sqlite db and gui instead.)



and now, for a more details:



QT (sharp, cacko):

 - qt  3 works with BIDI.  few to none applications work with qt3.

 - QT 2, upon which everyting is built, is doomed to have non-ordered stream of characters.  

 - the browsers  are useless for most of the texts

 - there are 2 unicode fonts that containt the hebrew subset, and come in QPF format.  after you copy them to the fonts dir, they are available for apps like the console, hancome mobile word, sheet, etc:  
       1. unifont  (only in size 16)
       2. i dont remember (even worse)

 - you can reverse hebrew "logical" to "visual" with numerous apps i wrote a 2 line PHP program that does just this.  but it's not a "producrtion" solution: its way too cumbersome.

 - i wrote a hebrew keyboard map file to use with "cyrillica" that  comes with cacko,  for the on-screen keyboard.  it's not difficult to continue, but my motivation is zero.  (the set-up is tricky, and i dont remember why). i have put it here:  http://geocities.com/makorepolaazazel/hebr...d-cyrillica.txt

 - use "lv" or "iconv" to convert and maneuver thru all the hebrew codecs that exist (windows cp1255, iso 8895-8, iso 8895-8-i, ibm, utf8, and other unicode versions),  or save your file in the right encoding from internet explorer (on windows).




pdaXrom:
 - abiword shows quite good hebrew documents.  the NIKUD is perfect! it's not perfect on mixed stream, though (e.g. hebrew + numbers)

 - firefox for web pages(html) !!!  it is a bit slow, but hebrew is perfect in any way. the other browser too didnt have any problems.

 - hebrew input:  i didnt try (yet), but there should be a ready-made solution for X already.  i'll check and update.




makorepolaazazel at: yahoo.com
you can also send me msg thru this board.

shula

[offroadgeek]

2)is there a shortcut or a way to close a current window without using the window icon in Opera?
memory use in Opera tends to crash QT on my Z, sometimes even after being shutdown. I would love a quick way to close pop ups/new windows after they have loaded.

There's a little icon that looks like a window (4th from the right).  If you tap and release that quickly, it will move between all windows.  If you tap and hold the icon (for a second or two), it will pop up some options to open a new window, close the current window, etc.

enjoy