Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

[gretchen]

Thanks for the info gretchen.  Somehow as a new seller he seems to have bypassed the limit of 8 sales.

I'm sorry for the miscommunication.  The limit is a dollar amount not a fixed number of sales.  Due to legal reasons I'm not sure if I can give out the exact amount...  Lets just say 300x8 plus a few other orders comes out to a nice round number.  The system is not perfect and as it looks like a bunch of people ordered at once    A few orders may have gone through before the 'over the limit' registered.

On occasion, an Amazon Marketplace purchase cannot be completed.

In this case, the seller is currently unable to accept payment."

That means he did indeed go over his limit.

@blackspion  They shouldn't have told you it was a problem with your credit card.  International cards work fine, and the e-mail you recieved was the standard one for seller over limit instead of the standard unable to charge your credit card.

[SHaubner]

I'm sorry for the miscommunication.  The limit is a dollar amount not a fixed number of sales.

gretchen--Is this a monthly limit?  weekly or daily?

[blackspion]

That means he did indeed go over his limit.

@blackspion  They shouldn't have told you it was a problem with your credit card.  International cards work fine, and the e-mail you recieved was the standard one for seller over limit instead of the standard unable to charge your credit card.

Hi gretchen,
thanks - that has been the information I was missing
seems my order has been one of the last
kr
Wolfgang

[offroadgeek]

I created a poll to try to determine the number of people here (and number of units) who tried to buy a 6000 from jpettins at Amazon.  To participate in the poll go here: VOTE

John -  Also, I've already asked for people to PM me with a few details about their purchase... that way I can take it to Amazon as a big group.

This poll is kinda redundant.

[adf]

speaking of which offroad, how's that coming? about ready to send 'em a "class action" notice of being ripped off via their website?

and--totally off topic-- looking at your current z collection I'm surprised you did 2 6k's instead of  of a 3k. Personally, I think I'd be happier with a 760 than with a 6k to begin with.  No offense, just musing on form factors. or was it like my "purchase" just too good a deal...?

[mars]

I looked at the $400 deal from the new amazon seller (which is gone by the way), because it looked like maybe too good a deal also. What I found interesting was looking at this sellers other items for sale. Among them was a brand new Canon EOS-1D Mark II 8.2MP Digital SLR, which normally goes for about $4,500.00 from reputable discount camera dealers.  

If my memory serves me, this person was selling it new for about half the going rate. When I looked at other sellers, the cheapest was for a brand new camera at $990.00. Now that I think about it, I've been wanting to upgrade to a digital SLR . . . .

What is also interesting is that many of the sellers for that item also claim they don't take amazon payments. It looks to me like potential fraud being conducted over amazon is bigger than I ever thought possible.

[adf]

That's another odd detail about pettins, too. One of the reasons (besides the at-a-glance 12 month rating that seemed to imply he'd been there a while and been good) I thought this deal was ok was that I could and did pay through amazon. If he'd asked for another channel of a payment I'd have dropped him immediately.
Maybe we should set up a thread (here or elsewhere on fraud at amazon, and having collected some info turn it over to a big news paper. soon. during the christmas rush.
I'm kinda mad at amazon about this, and I think maybe we could save some others who likewise trust amazon the grief  and annoyance of being robbed there. Kinda lik,e pointing out that a shopping center is in a high crime neighborhood, and directing folks elsewhere....
Amazon.com  the ghetto of e-commerce hehehehehe

[wizzard]

So should we continue to bug Amazon individually? Or do something collectively?
I am willing to settle for a Z6K.

[offroadgeek]

speaking of which offroad, how's that coming? about ready to send 'em a "class action" notice of being ripped off via their website?

and--totally off topic-- looking at your current z collection I'm surprised you did 2 6k's instead of  of a 3k. Personally, I think I'd be happier with a 760 than with a 6k to begin with.  No offense, just musing on form factors. or was it like my "purchase" just too good a deal...?

I don't think we're ready for that yet... I'm still getting PMs and updating the tally.

I've split that tally post of mine into a new pinned thread in the deals forum... that way it's easier to update and for people to reference.

regarding my current z collection, and why I bought the 6k..  I hadn't actually wanted a 6k before, as I'm pretty partial to the clamshell design, but at $300 I just couldn't pass.  I would like to get a 3000, but it doesn't add much more functionality than what I have with my 760 (except for usb host and the 4 gb drive).

I bought two because I figured my brother would like to upgrade his 5500, and even if he didn't I thought I could easily get what I paid for it.

[offroadgeek]

So should we continue to bug Amazon individually? Or do something collectively?
I am willing to settle for a Z6K.

I would recommend (as I'm sure adf and others would agree) that you continue to contact amazon individually.  As they will probably only speak with the account owner directly for refunds.

I'm not certain that we can actually do anything with the consolidated data of who purchased from jpettins, but minimally the data can go to amazon to solidify our case that he's a fraud, and possibly get in on a legit group deal.

Personally, I'm not concerned at all about the refund.  I'm confident that amazon will pull through with the a-z guarantee and I'll get 100% of my money credited.  Though I'm willing to wait until end of December to get it, others who are looking for the refund sooner might be fighting a difficult battle.

[wizzard]

I am sure that we will get our refunds; but I think it'll take till the end of Dec. Of course, if Amazon decides that a fraud has been perpetrated they might refund the money sooner, but I don't really believe that it will.
Will it be possible for us as a group to pressurize Amazon to sell us Z6Ks at least at their advertised lowest price ($379)? How many ZUGers would be willing to go for that price?

[f1oyd1an]

I'LL GO FOR 379$

[nmos]

One thing that is bugging me is that although Amazon has responded to me twice now neither response indicates that they actually read what I sent them.  It's almost as if they have some sort of (buggy) irc bot scanning the posts for keywords and spitting back pre-formatted text to match whatever keywords are found.  It seems like they may not even be aware of a problem untill after they've paid out on their guarantee a few times.

[f1oyd1an]

I write an email 1 page long and this is what they reply:

Thank you for contacting Amazon.com regarding this matter.

I've researched your account; it appears that one of my colleagues
has already resolved this issue through phone.  I do apologize for
the delay in responding to your e-mail inquiry.

Please accept my sincerest apologies for the inconvenience caused in
this regard.

[wizzard]

I just received the following from Amazon:

I sincerely apologize for the bad experience you had with one of our
colleagues and with this seller.

I've reviewed your order from jpettins and found that it was placed
using the Standard shipping option.  The estimated delivery date for
this order is December 09, 2004 - December 23, 2004, as noted in Your
Account and your order confirmation e-mail.  We would like to ask
that you wait until the close of business on December 28, 2004 for
your order to arrive. 

We do want to make sure that your order works out.  Please save this
message.  If you don't receive a reply from your seller within 3
business days of contacting them, or are not able to come to an
agreement regarding a non-received order, contact Amazon.com again
using the special URL below:

[URL edited]

When we receive a report from you using the form above, we will
investigate the status of your order and take any actions available
to us to resolve the problem.

You may also want to consider the convenient self-service option of
using our online A-to-z Guarantee.  If you are eligible under its
terms, you may file a claim online for full reimbursement of your
order cost, including shipping.  Our guarantee is located online at:

http://www.amazon.com/o/tg/browse/-/537868/

Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com.

I informed them that it has been over 3 business days since I was able to contact the seller.