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Wormhole
I just installed the test version and I am very positive. Installing was easy (with twrp). The wifi camera and the design are nice and easy. The sound and the cellular is also working.

I like it a lot. I hope it will publish soon.

But the most important thing, it is not possible to install debian + sailfish. Only sailfish + android.
vader
QUOTE(Wormhole @ Jun 11 2018, 02:21 AM) *
I just installed the test version and I am very positive. Installing was easy (with twrp). The wifi camera and the design are nice and easy. The sound and the cellular is also working.

I like it a lot. I hope it will publish soon.

But the most important thing, it is not possible to install debian + sailfish. Only sailfish + android.

Is this the new v3 sailfish, or the community port of 2.x? I am really hanging out for sailfish, but as this is my only device I need it to be fully functional (bummer). From what you have said, it is pretty much there. I have one android app I need (banking) - how does the android emulation work?

Cheers...
cosmo
QUOTE(Wormhole @ Jun 10 2018, 07:21 PM) *
But the most important thing, it is not possible to install debian + sailfish. Only sailfish + android.



Check the bottom part of this for instructions how to toggle between debian & sailfish:

http://coshacks.blogspot.com/2018/04/gemin...kers-guide.html
flotsam
I've just been trying it out too. As reported by others, it is impressively functional, but not really usable.

Someone should correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess there's no point in detailing problems or trying to fix things until Sailfish 3 comes out.
vader
QUOTE(flotsam @ Jun 13 2018, 09:07 AM) *
I've just been trying it out too. As reported by others, it is impressively functional, but not really usable.

Someone should correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess there's no point in detailing problems or trying to fix things until Sailfish 3 comes out.


Why is it not usable? Lack of apps? I am guessing the lack of keyboard integration makes it difficult to use "Gemini style" (ie. via the keyboard).
flotsam
QUOTE(vader @ Jun 14 2018, 05:48 AM) *
Why is it not usable? Lack of apps? I am guessing the lack of keyboard integration makes it difficult to use "Gemini style" (ie. via the keyboard).


One certainly wishes for more apps, but that's not unexpected.

And it's generally buggier than Android (unsurprisingly). e.g. I occasionally find myself with no network connection, and need to reboot to get it back.

But, off the top of my head, the important niggles that I can remember:

* No real keyboard support. Or I haven't found it at any rate. So I can't even set the keyboard to the UK layout (although that is the language I selected). And most of the special keys don't work. So the keyboard is difficult to use and doesn't provide much help in doing things (one still needs to use the touch screen for most things).

* No GPS support. So navigation and maps aren't very useful.

* The side button doesn't seem to do anything. So one needs to open the cover to take a call.

* I won't swear to it, but I think it always uses both microphones when talking, which doesn't help with call quality.

* It always seems to use just the left speaker for telephone calls. So one needs to be careful which way one holds it.

* LTE does work well for me. But it seems to confuse the telephone app, so it refuses to make calls unless I change the settings to use only 3G. (One can however text and receive calls when using 4G). This is obviously impractical.

There are no doubt other things that I've forgotten or haven't discovered. The bottom line is that it is still difficult to do just about anything with it.

It does appear that it wouldn't take a lot of work to fix it, but my impression is that not much is going to be done until Sailfish 3, so we'll just have to wait for that. If someone wants to correct me, and get me a new version, I'd be happy to help iron out problems with it.
Artemys

will it be possible to use Gemini only with Sailfish? And what do you know about SF#3, will it work like in case of Xperia, like you can download and install it on Gemini?
Meganerd
QUOTE(Artemys @ Jun 15 2018, 06:32 AM) *
will it be possible to use Gemini only with Sailfish? And what do you know about SF#3, will it work like in case of Xperia, like you can download and install it on Gemini?


I am sure you could accomplish this by manually modifying the file you generate with the partition tool (http://support.planetcom.co.uk/download/partitionTool.html) to accomplish a sailfish only boot.

But what would be easier would setting the SFOS as the main booting OS and only leaving Android minimal partition size.
speculatrix
the latest firmware release from Planet allow triple booting.
go to the advanced partitioning page and you can get the scatter file, and the base Android. then you unpack the base android zip, copy in the scatter file, then unpack the dual OS firmware into that directory too and you flash it all in one go.

of course, it will wipe everything on the device.

makes sure you save a copy of the scatter file as you'll need that to upgrade specific partitions.

I set Android to 32GB, and the rest for debian and sailfish, and I got a file called Gemini_x27_A32GB_L24GB_Multi_Boot_Scatter.txt

it worked for me ™. I had to use the Windows flashing tool, the Linux one never saw the phone appear.

I flashed base Android + Debian + Sailfish all in one go.
andrewl
Another little bug, with sailfish active, the charger works OK but the lights on the outside of the Gemini case don't correctly represent charge state.
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