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Varti
We had a similar thread in the Gemini's subforum, I guess we might open one here too!

New update released yesterday: agreement with the Chinese factory now signed, they have now chosen to keep the P70 as the Cosmo's CPU instead of switching to the new P90, they'll attend CES 2019.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...ator#/updates/6

Varti
Varti
New update #14 is out:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all

(seems like direct linking to single updates on Indiegogo is not working anymore, pity).

PCB now working with the internal display, external display now works too, mechanical mock-up has now been approved.

Varti
Daniel W
QUOTE(Varti @ Apr 12 2019, 04:01 PM) *
New update #14 is out:
PCB now working with the internal display, external display now works too, mechanical mock-up has now been approved.

Yes, and the tooling has started for all metal and plastic mechanical components of the Cosmo.

Hm, I used to joke about the apparent 11-day weeks of Planet Computers... but in 22 weeks, we've gotten 14 "weekly" (as they call them) Cosmo updates, which actually is, on average, one every eleven days... Oh well, it'll come when it's done.
gymbo
Update 15 is out:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...59#/updates/all

They may have mentioned it earlier, but the outside screen has a separate processor, and they claim that it makes it independent of the OS in the main screen...
gidds
QUOTE(gymbo @ Apr 27 2019, 08:54 PM) *
the outside screen has a separate processor, and they claim that it makes it independent of the OS in the main screen...

I'm guessing that'll make it harder to customise, control, &c…?
gymbo
QUOTE(gidds @ May 4 2019, 06:37 PM) *
QUOTE(gymbo @ Apr 27 2019, 08:54 PM) *
the outside screen has a separate processor, and they claim that it makes it independent of the OS in the main screen...

I'm guessing that'll make it harder to customise, control, &c…?


They also said something about defining what kind of "messages" the two parts can send to one-another, and if that is "known" by the OS, then it should be possible? In terms of customizing the LOOK it should be quite straightforward?? And sending over buttons or menu items should make "toggling" the "right" switches possible in the OS, so it should be possible to do almost anything, unless it is restricted by f.ex. the size of items sent (watching a big video on the outside screen might be impossible, and would be kind of impractical anyway...)?

But anyway, update 16 is out:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...59#/updates/all

Don't really remember much about what they said, but of course, you (all of the maybe 200+? people reading this tread) might have different preferences than me, and find all of it very interesting! unsure.gif
MonkeyControl
Update 17 is out, The first picture alone is worth the price of admission, it looks gorgeous, I just want to stroke it.
Lots of interesting news in the update too.
We're getting pretty close, I'm sooooooo excited.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all
MonkeyControl
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 32 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all
Varti
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jun 21 2019, 09:34 AM) *
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 32 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all

In the video they are making an emergency call... I hope that the antenna was attached to a network simulator with the device being registered on it and not on a live network smile.gif

Varti
ArchiMark
QUOTE(Varti @ Jun 21 2019, 12:39 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jun 21 2019, 09:34 AM) *
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 32 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all

In the video they are making an emergency call... I hope that the antenna was attached to a network simulator with the device being registered on it and not on a live network smile.gif

Varti


Either that or in the next update video, we'll see the fire truck arrive and put the fire out on the Cosmo.......

smile.gif
Daniel W
Well, now Update #19 is out.

QUOTE(Varti @ Jun 21 2019, 09:39 AM) *
In the video they are making an emergency call... I hope that the antenna was attached to a network simulator with the device being registered on it and not on a live network smile.gif

Based on the status bar of the main screen, they had no network coverage at all. I'd guess that's why they were dialing an emergency number, as the Cosmo otherwise probably wouldn't even have botherd trying to making a call, while dialing an emergency number probably forces any smartphone to try anyway, while looking for any network. As the text of Update #18 points out "that the Cover Display is operating in debug engineering mode", it could also be that the Cosmo didnn't actually try making any call, and that 112 was a simple number to dial in the demo.

Were they to dial any other "real" number, at least some of us would certainly try calling that number, just to see who, if anyone, would answer. Since Planet Computers, as far as I know, have no published phone number, they'd need a burner phone or a network simulator, and also make VERY sure nobody actually has, or might soon get, any "real" number they'd dial. Since "everybody" knows what 112 is, I'd guess it's convenient for that reason too, as long as they don't actually dial it for real.
gymbo
QUOTE(Daniel W @ Jun 26 2019, 06:22 PM) *
Well, now Update #19 is out.


And for those who have selected "Other" as their keyboard layout they now have an online form to fill inn with your actual choice, AND they want you to fill it in before 1st of July.

The same goes for those wanting/needing the Verizon version for USA...
MonkeyControl
A message from "The other side", (indiegogo)...
QUOTE(Planet Computers : 1 hour ago)
Big Cosmo backer update coming end of the day tomorrow!
ArchiMark
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 11 2019, 12:46 PM) *
A message from "The other side", (indiegogo)...
QUOTE(Planet Computers : 1 hour ago)
Big Cosmo backer update coming end of the day tomorrow!



Standing by......

smile.gif
Piece_Maker
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 11 2019, 08:46 PM) *
A message from "The other side", (indiegogo)...
QUOTE(Planet Computers : 1 hour ago)
Big Cosmo backer update coming end of the day tomorrow!



And where is this quote from? No update today and it's well past Eod today in the UK sad.gif
Pikku-iikka
The Update is there, and I'll comment in 'finnghlish':
Its lukin laik tö ting is rili kaming tu as. Mii kännot veit tu ket mai händs on it - för helvete...
MonkeyControl
Another message from "The other side"...
QUOTE(Planet Computers : 3 hour ago)
There will be a new Cosmo Backer update over the weekend.
Daniel W
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 25 2019, 09:12 PM) *
Another message from "The other side"...

Thank you for keeping an eye on the IGG comments. After trying to do so for a while, the general tone made me go away. While I'm not easily offended, it just made me sad.

Looking forward to the weekend update (I'm guessing it arrives on Monday). In the last update, from about two weeks ago, they said they'd publish the final mass production schedule "soon", so I hope this update will deliver on that. In another thread I guessed mass production would commence on July 29. I'm seriously starting to doubt that guess now. We'll soon see, I hope.
gymbo
QUOTE(Daniel W @ Jul 26 2019, 12:18 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 25 2019, 09:12 PM) *
Another message from "The other side"...

Thank you for keeping an eye on the IGG comments. After trying to do so for a while, the general tone made me go away. While I'm not easily offended, it just made me sad.

Looking forward to the weekend update (I'm guessing it arrives on Monday). In the last update, from about two weeks ago, they said they'd publish the final mass production schedule "soon", so I hope this update will deliver on that. In another thread I guessed mass production would commence on July 29. I'm seriously starting to doubt that guess now. We'll soon see, I hope.

"Over the weekend" in "Planet-speak" would probably just mean before NEXT weekend tongue.gif

But they could of course surprise us by being "on time" this time??

A short description of "Planet time":
  • A minute is 100 seconds (easier to work with mathematically...)
  • An hour is 100 minutes (same as for minutes...)
  • A day is 26 hours, at least!! (Or is it probably 25 hours, as that is easier to work with mathematically???) (Which kind of suits me, as my daily cycle probably is closer to that than 24 hours)
  • A week is 8 days (If that gives them one more day of work, or of the weekend, I do not know...)
  • A month is probably 33 1/3 days (unless they need some more time; then it is 50 days...)
  • And a year is then at least 400 days (and might be 600...)

And as an effect of all of this, a "Planet lightyear" will then be longer than the "standard". (Which again makes kind of sense in that Planet is an English company, and the English have a history of not "liking standards" in the first place...)
MonkeyControl
QUOTE(Daniel_W)
After trying to do so for a while, the general tone made me go away.
I know what you mean, the miserable minority was doing my head in too. I had to close my account before I had another drink and posted what I really thought. I only go there now to look for Planet's golden needles in a haystack containing poo, but even then it feels like I'm rubbernecking.
QUOTE(gymbo)
A minute is 100 seconds (easier to work with mathematically...)
An hour is 100 minutes (same as for minutes...)
It's okay, I'm sure the UK has just finally gone metric. erm...
QUOTE(gymbo)
Which again makes kind of sense in that Planet is an English company, and the English have a history of not "liking standards" in the first place...)
When I grew up there I was always taught the mantra that the great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from.

We will get there.
I'm sure the Cosmo will be worth it, but like Xmas, the waiting is the hard part. Personally, I'm not anxious at all right now, honest, really, if I can just convince myself...
Pikku-iikka
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 26 2019, 10:15 AM) *
QUOTE(gymbo)
A minute is 100 seconds (easier to work with mathematically...)
An hour is 100 minutes (same as for minutes...)

It's okay, I'm sure the UK has just finally gone metric. erm...

Ahh... those days in '70s and '80s when imported british vehicles had screws we home-mechanics didn't have tools for. Can't remember if those were torx style, brits being ahead of times? Now, when the brexit seems to become reality, maybe Britain will take some steps backwords - away from metrics and towards pounds, shillings & pennies. Just kidding blink.gif I've always felt sympathy for british life style & stuff, but now I feel sadness them leaving EU so surprisingly and to my opinion: unthinkably. Cheers'... (kippis).

-Pikku-iikka
MonkeyControl
QUOTE(Pikku-iikka @ Jul 26 2019, 08:54 PM) *
Ahh... those days in '70s and '80s when imported british vehicles had screws we home-mechanics didn't have tools for. Can't remember if those were torx style, brits being ahead of times?
So those were torx screwheads. I wish you had told me that back then, you would have saved me a fortune in broken knuckles, bad language and tins of WD40. I thought everybody maintained vehicles this way. I still have my large collection of hammers and pliers for servicing, but these days my Mazda and Nissan seem to have little need for them.
Vistaus
QUOTE(Piece_Maker @ Jul 13 2019, 12:11 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 11 2019, 08:46 PM) *
A message from "The other side", (indiegogo)...
QUOTE(Planet Computers : 1 hour ago)
Big Cosmo backer update coming end of the day tomorrow!



And where is this quote from? No update today and it's well past Eod today in the UK sad.gif


That was posted on July 11, look at the original post wink.gif And that update turned out to be Update #20.

New update (#21) is coming this weekend.
gidds
QUOTE(Pikku-iikka @ Jul 26 2019, 09:54 AM) *
I feel sadness them leaving EU so surprisingly and to my opinion: unthinkably.

Some of us Brits feel exactly the same! (Remember that almost half of us voted to remain in the EU -- and many of the rest weren't expecting such a drastic approach to leaving, nor the incompetence with which it's being handled. Yet somehow those at the centre of politics have turned it into a childish my-Brexit-is-harder-than-yours competition! Whatever happens, it's not going to end well -- and there seems to be nothing that any of us can do to stop it.)
Piece_Maker
QUOTE(Vistaus @ Jul 26 2019, 07:49 PM) *
QUOTE(Piece_Maker @ Jul 13 2019, 12:11 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 11 2019, 08:46 PM) *
A message from "The other side", (indiegogo)...
QUOTE(Planet Computers : 1 hour ago)
Big Cosmo backer update coming end of the day tomorrow!



And where is this quote from? No update today and it's well past Eod today in the UK sad.gif


That was posted on July 11, look at the original post wink.gif And that update turned out to be Update #20.

New update (#21) is coming this weekend.


My post was on the 12th (ie. the day after the 'end of day tomorrow' post), you should probably check the dates on posts before you try pointing out people who don't check dates on posts laugh.gif

In all seriousness, I'm absolutely looking forward to this update more than anything else. Assuming nothing went wrong between the last update and now this could be the one we're all eagerly waiting for smile.gif
MonkeyControl
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 37 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all
gymbo
QUOTE(gymbo @ Jul 26 2019, 02:02 AM) *
QUOTE(Daniel W @ Jul 26 2019, 12:18 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 25 2019, 09:12 PM) *
Another message from "The other side"...

Thank you for keeping an eye on the IGG comments. After trying to do so for a while, the general tone made me go away. While I'm not easily offended, it just made me sad.

Looking forward to the weekend update (I'm guessing it arrives on Monday). In the last update, from about two weeks ago, they said they'd publish the final mass production schedule "soon", so I hope this update will deliver on that. In another thread I guessed mass production would commence on July 29. I'm seriously starting to doubt that guess now. We'll soon see, I hope.

"Over the weekend" in "Planet-speak" would probably just mean before NEXT weekend tongue.gif

But they could of course surprise us by being "on time" this time??

A short description of "Planet time":
  • A minute is 100 seconds (easier to work with mathematically...)
  • An hour is 100 minutes (same as for minutes...)
  • A day is 26 hours, at least!! (Or is it probably 25 hours, as that is easier to work with mathematically???) (Which kind of suits me, as my daily cycle probably is closer to that than 24 hours)
  • A week is 8 days (If that gives them one more day of work, or of the weekend, I do not know...)
  • A month is probably 33 1/3 days (unless they need some more time; then it is 50 days...)
  • And a year is then at least 400 days (and might be 600...)
And as an effect of all of this, a "Planet lightyear" will then be longer than the "standard". (Which again makes kind of sense in that Planet is an English company, and the English have a history of not "liking standards" in the first place...)

I stand corrected: Over the weekend actually turned out to be just "over the weekend" (and by just a few minutes too...). Somebody must have fixed all the clock and calendars over there!!! (If they could just fix the alarms in Agenda as well, things would really start looking good...)

If it wasn't obvious by the statement above: Cosmo update 21 is out:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all

Slight delay in schedule, but that is probably a good thing (compared to a rushed product with faults/flaws...)!!
gymbo
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 29 2019, 01:39 AM) *
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 37 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all

And to make another useless post; I was apparently a few minutes late with my post about it blink.gif
(or should I say ph34r.gif )

Hadn't seen your post when I started posting...
Daniel W
QUOTE(gymbo @ Jul 29 2019, 01:43 AM) *
Slight delay in schedule, but that is probably a good thing (compared to a rushed product with faults/flaws...)!!

Compared to the (already delayed) schedule from Update #13, we've now essentially slipped another month, with start of mass production scheduled for the last week of August, so shipping can thus occur no earlier than September, suggesting that the Cosmo will, much like the Gemini, be about four months late, pending that no further issues are found in the PR2 samples, that is. But yes, indeed, rather get it right than rush it.
gymbo
QUOTE(Daniel W @ Jul 29 2019, 02:01 AM) *
QUOTE(gymbo @ Jul 29 2019, 01:43 AM) *
Slight delay in schedule, but that is probably a good thing (compared to a rushed product with faults/flaws...)!!

Compared to the (already delayed) schedule from Update #13, we've now essentially slipped another month, with start of mass production scheduled for the last week of August, so shipping can thus occur no earlier than September, suggesting that the Cosmo will, much like the Gemini, be about four months late, pending that no further issues are found in the PR2 samples, that is. But yes, indeed, rather get it right than rush it.

I should of course have said "slight FURTHER delay in schedule", but I would still rather have it "right" than a "left hand work" (don't really know if it is an expression in English, but assume people understand what I mean, and it fits quite good with wanting it to be "right" tongue.gif ).

Of course, if I don't have it by Christmas, I will be quite annoyed with Santa Claus... (Which of course would be totally unfair, because as far as we know he doesn't work there, does he? Although, if he indeed DOES work there, that might account for their somewhat "loose" concepts of time: As anybody knows Santa Clause needs to have som kind of "time-bending" capabilities in order to get around and deliver all those those presents for Christmas, so it would be fair to assume that time around him wold be kind of erratic ... rolleyes.gif unsure.gif blink.gif )
MonkeyControl
QUOTE(gymbo @ Jul 29 2019, 11:49 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 29 2019, 01:39 AM) *
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 37 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all

And to make another useless post; I was apparently a few minutes late with my post about it blink.gif
(or should I say ph34r.gif )

Hadn't seen your post when I started posting...

Sorry Gymbo, I didn't mean to steal your thunder by four minutes, but bizarrely UK 'Planet time' seems to align very well with NZ 'Normal person time' for some reason.
Then again, I had just spent the previous six hours staring at the indiegogo page while tapping the refresh icon on the browser.
gymbo
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 29 2019, 08:03 AM) *
QUOTE(gymbo @ Jul 29 2019, 11:49 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 29 2019, 01:39 AM) *
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 37 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all

And to make another useless post; I was apparently a few minutes late with my post about it blink.gif
(or should I say ph34r.gif )

Hadn't seen your post when I started posting...

Sorry Gymbo, I didn't mean to steal your thunder by four minutes, but bizarrely UK 'Planet time' seems to align very well with NZ 'Normal person time' for some reason.
Then again, I had just spent the previous six hours staring at the indiegogo page while tapping the refresh icon on the browser.

OK, since you spent six hours staring at the Indiegogo page and hitting refresh (you must have gotten sore fingers...), I will forgive you laugh.gif
maki.jouni
Another message from "The other side"... There is announce teaser about new update on IndieGoGo...

"
There have been a number of comments about the next backer update. As expected we have been involved with a lot of testing over the past weeks. There will be a new exciting Cosmo backer update this Friday.
"
Daniel W
Thank you for picking that gem out of the mud. If their estimates in Update #21 worked out, Planet Computers should be receiving the PR2 samples approximately today, and the mass production should commence in eleven or so days.
drpeter
Latest update is up....

Looks like all is on schedule for manufacture last week in August! rolleyes.gif
ArchiMark
QUOTE(drpeter @ Aug 16 2019, 04:14 PM) *
Latest update is up....

Looks like all is on schedule for manufacture last week in August! rolleyes.gif


Yes, indeed.....

Looks good in the video....

biggrin.gif

Varti
Very good news, and interesting that they have arranged a Cosmo backers meetup in Tokyo - I believe there's a lot of interest for this device in Japan.

Varti
jakfish
If they're rolling off the line at end of August, any wild guess as to actual shipment? I wonder how long the actual assembly takes in the factory.
Daniel W
QUOTE(jakfish @ Aug 17 2019, 06:40 PM) *
If they're rolling off the line at end of August, any wild guess as to actual shipment? I wonder how long the actual assembly takes in the factory.
The first Gemini PCB mass production begun around Saturday, January 20, 2018 (Update #44). Final assembly of entire devices begun on Thursday, February 1, 2018 (Update #45) and was complete on Saturday, February 10 (Update #48). The earliest post I have found here on OESF from a user who received their Gemini, says it arrived on Thursday, March 1, 2018. I got my (X25) Gemini on Wednesday, March 21, 2018.

How these numbers might translate to the Cosmo is anybody's guess.
DJO
QUOTE(Daniel W @ Aug 17 2019, 08:08 PM) *
How these numbers might translate to the Cosmo is anybody's guess.


We can do a little bit more than guess, the run will probably be bigger than the first Gemini one as they only made ~1,000 Geminis on the that run (with the x25), the device is a bit more complex but conversely they have manufacturing experience with the Gemini which should transfer to the Cosmo easily enough.

So probably a little longer, assuming no serious problems in production, 6 to 7 weeks after all the parts are delivered to the factory.


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