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For Sale / Wanted / Zaurus 3000. Mint Condition. Uk.

« on: January 08, 2009, 07:03:12 pm »

SOLD

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Ubuntu / Zubuntu 1.0 Rc1

« on: December 29, 2008, 11:49:00 pm »

I have a transcend SD 150x 4gb not a SDHC formatted to fat, havent tried it formatted to anything else. From the other posts Id say it was an issue with the cacko rom as I always needed to flash the testsu sd patch for it to work.

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Ubuntu / Memory Cards And Multibooting

« on: December 29, 2008, 07:01:23 pm »

So to all...

What is the fastest SD card?

I've seen class 6, class 4etc etc

Sandisk Extreme iV? III?

"SD Speed Class Ratings
SDHC cards have SD Speed Class Ratings defined by the SD Association. The SD Speed Class Ratings specify the following minimum write speeds based on "the best fragmented state where no memory unit is occupied":[18]
Class 2: 2 MB/s
Class 4: 4 MB/s
Class 6: 6 MB/s
SDHC cards will often also advertise a maximum speed (such as 133x or 150x) in addition to this minimum Speed Class Rating. See section Speeds above for a further explanation. One critical difference between the Speed Class and the maximum speed ratings is the ability of the host device to query the SD card for the speed class and determine the best location to store data that meets the performance required. "Maximum speed" ratings are quoted by the manufacturers but unverified by any independent evaluation process."

Speeds

There are different speed grades available which are measured with the same system as CD-ROMs, in multiples of 150 kB/s (1x = 150 kB/s). Basic cards transfer data up to six times (6x) the data rate of the standard CD-ROM speed (900 kB/s vs. 150 kB/s). High-speed cards are made with higher data transfer rates like 66x (10 MB/s), and high-end cards have speeds of 200x or higher. Note that maximum read speed and maximum write speed may be different, with maximum write speed typically lower than maximum read speed. Some digital cameras require high-speed cards (write speed) to record video smoothly or capture multiple still photographs in rapid succession. The SD card specification 1.01 allows for a maximum speed of 66x. Higher speeds of up to 200x are defined by specification 2.0.
The following table lists some common ratings and their respective maximum transfer rates.
Rating   Speed (MB/s)
  6x    0.9
 32x    4.8
 40x    6.0
 66x   10.0
100x   15.0
133x   20.0
150x   22.5
200x   30.0
"

Anyone have any real world experience?

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Ubuntu / Memory Cards And Multibooting

« on: December 29, 2008, 06:54:54 pm »

My 8 gig sandisk also works well with Debian and Zubuntu.

ah great thanks for that all, i just put in a sdhc and i didn't work but that was with cacko firmware...

Is debian that easy to install :-) ill give it a go.

So if we mutliboot we should be able to boot into cacko? or would it not recognise the card due to firmware? Once it loads the cacko firmware surely it would stop recognising it?

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Ubuntu / Zubuntu 1.0 Rc1

« on: December 29, 2008, 06:50:28 pm »

OK, I have to ask...

...If so, is it noticeably faster than Debian?

For me, in it's current form, it's much faster. But really, you have to try it out yourself to see if you notice any difference.

I find it many times faster than Andromeda, but I also changed to a new SD card.  I went from a Transcend 150x 4gb, to a 16gb Kingston SDHC.  Not sure how much of a factor that would be.  Even python apps run better (pysol is easily 5x faster.  almost no delay).  There could also be other factors I am missing though.

Canguy

Oh thats odd I put in a sandisk sdhc type 4 and my cacko distro on my slc3000 didnt recognise the card, the transcend 4gb is fine

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Ubuntu / Memory Cards And Multibooting

« on: December 27, 2008, 05:58:42 pm »

Can anybody tell me if this multi-boot from SD works with SDHC cards which are fast and available in quite large capacities? If it does then moomincity's post has prompted me to think about the need to have an internal microdrive at all in a spitz, in which case my mind turns to the possibility of using the CF slot for something else, e.g. building in a bluetooth card. Any thoughts?

exactly why I posted the question :-)

I'm not sure if sdhc works, from reading :

"4GB SD card, recomended for SL-C1000, replaces its 2GB SD card for larger storage space: 17.00 EUR (only available together with the weeXpc for SL-C1000 software). Attention: Most 4GB cards are SDHC cards which cannot be used with weeXpc (The Zaurus hardware does not support SDHC). The card offered by hermocom is tested and working with weeXpc!"

though thats probably out of date, here:

https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showto...mp;#entry174902

"SDHC cards are reported to work on Ångström and with new kernels,
so there is no problem with the hardware whatsoever."

ill try and test one to find out.

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Ubuntu / Memory Cards And Multibooting

« on: December 27, 2008, 03:43:05 pm »

Hey all,

first thanks for the help  I was wondering whether the multiboot firmware can boot from the internal microdisk/CF. IF thats the case whats the best way of using your zaurus in the future?

Use:

An internal fast CF large capacity card (but multiboot uses external sd/CF cards)
or use fast sd cards and dont bother with the internal Cf at all or
maybe use internal Cf adaptor with a cf?

if zubuntu becomes viable what would be best?

moomincity

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Ubuntu / Zubuntu 1.0 Rc1

« on: December 27, 2008, 03:10:25 pm »

Hooray!

Ok the story so far

1. Equipment:

Zaurus SLC 3000
D-link DCF 660 Wireless Card
256mb Panasonic SD
4GB Transcend SD 150x
2GB Panasonic SD Class 4

2. Zubuntu:

Downloaded the Zubuntu install files on xp, transferred onto a fat card (oh dear).
Formatted to ext2, unzipped in Ubuntu on my macbook :-D
booted but got errors messages to do with akita sound lib not found

lsusb listed nothing
cardctl didn't work (even after adding etc/module entries)
lsmod listed nothing

No usb devices are recognised or powered.

3. Speed on Zubuntu:

Used 2gb and 4gb and when I loaded the sound app (audalicious?) the window dragging had a noticible 2 second delay.  I'll get a sandisk extreme III and test it when I can. Also I'll get a 16-32gb CF and test that too ;-p

4. Multiboot:

Couldn't get kexecboot  to work fully.

.nfo wasnt picked up on the partitions but partitions did show up. All partitions were made in Ubuntu 8.10.

a)  Zubuntu booted off the first partition but I copied cacko  (slc3kb1) to another partition

zImage.bin
updater.sh
mversion.bin
initrd.bin (then deleted it)
hdimage1.tgz

 then unzipped spitz-root-addition.tar to each partition
c) renamed zImage.bin to zImage
d) had no idea how to change the kernel cmdline

booted and said hda not found.

Why I am doing this

I had a Hp200LX and it was the best thing ever. Since then I'v had every single pda under the sun (from sony clie to psions to blackberrys to nokia) Best thing ever was that old clamshell, qwerty keyboard. Then I saw a zaurus clamshell  so I've been playing with it for weeks.

5. Problems (I've reflashed about 40 times in 4 days so no problems there)

a) pdaxrom full is too slow and a bit unresponsive. Wake up from standy is too slow.
 cacko is good but the apps seems  a bit limited. I like the functionality of pdaxrom but it really is just too slow. So i'm back to cacko.
c) Dlink DCF 660W. Damn thing isnt recognised by any distro. Cartctl just returns nothing. Card ident - nothing, Card info, nothing. Bought it second hand :-( but getting a Belkin F5D5050 USB to 10/100 LAN Ethernet Adaptor so i can at least get internet. I have tried everything to get this card to work (dlink) but nothing happens. The light goes on but nobody is home.
d) Mplayer can play a movie off the terminal but nogo in x11. Rotated and the sound is out of sync though it is larger than 640x480.


Hope you get zubuntu up and running fully as it would be great for the clamshell. Haven't tried bsd or angstrom yet. Want something quick to type with and mayeb play music and watch movies.

6) When you reflash back to cacko everything is still there.

phew i was up until 6am last night (morning) trying to get it working