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A new element : several new tests show that things are not so simple :

This phenomenon seems to be linked to my CF card (SanDisk 512Mb Ultra II) : when I suspend resume with a simple shell window with a current directory on the CF, this window can be shut unexpectedly after a suspend / resume. In the same way, a window with an application opening a file on the CF card may be shut at resume. Instead, when the window has no relation with the CF, there is no (less ?) pb (during the tests made recently).

The problem is that I've found no clear & repeatable situation to reproduce the bug.

Would anybody know any problem about the relation betweeen suspend/resume & CF ?

Is it due to some bad settings ? Or to a bad CF ?

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Hi,

Coming back to try to use pdaXrom after a long time without Z and then without pdaXrom, I discover a bug which is really sufficient to disgust anybody ...

I've just installed PdaXrom (beta 1 - because all the threads that I've read seem to indicate it as the last one with a correct APM). And I discover a bug which I had met in the past, but I don't remember how I handled it, since I'm sure not to have been so much embarassed as I'm now :

At nearly each suspend-resume, my Z closes some or all the opened windows or underlying applications, and in pure initial shell environnement (before any "startx" command), I have seen a "logout" done just when resuming ...

Well, this is not quite comfortable to work ...

Would anybody have an idea ? (Sorry for such a basic thread compared with several "intergalactical" other ones around  ...)   :-)

Thx by adv,

Micla.

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Sharp ROMs / Z-860 Usb Connection Problem
« on: May 01, 2007, 09:22:54 am »
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Try the Zaurus on a different computer.
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Yes, made too ... Same result : always the "USB peripheral unknown/problem". That's why I'm fearing more and more about a hardware problem. Also tried with two different cords, and got same result ...

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Sharp ROMs / Z-860 Usb Connection Problem
« on: April 30, 2007, 02:09:57 pm »
Again an additional point :

I had used the USB link in "storage" mode, and it had perfectly worked, but I've had a connector pb, I've stopped to use the USB connection from then, and I've changed my PC configuration several time since.

Now, my connector problem is (should be ?) corrected, but I don't remember if I had made something specific on my Win XP in the first time to have a classical "storage" behavior.

What you say make me fear a hardware problem still existing ...

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Sharp ROMs / Z-860 Usb Connection Problem
« on: April 30, 2007, 02:04:22 pm »
Just a point missed above : I've correctly choosen "Mode setting : CF Memory Card" ...!

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Sharp ROMs / Z-860 Usb Connection Problem
« on: April 30, 2007, 01:22:58 pm »
A very simplistic question to help all the "geniuses" of this list have some rest  :

When I connect my Z860 to my PC via USB, I have an error msg saying "USB peripheral not recognised".

Is there a driver so set on my PC (Win XP) or is it a symptom of hardware failure ...?

If it's a driver missing, is there a place on Internet where I could find it ?

NB : my goal would be to make this run under another ROM, but I came back to Sharp ROM so as to test this in the more classic conditions, and I don't even manage to make this run ... Who is the culprit : the PC or the Zaurus ?

Thanx for help !

Micla.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Kde 3.4 On Pdaxrom. The Alone Interesting Thread !
« on: July 27, 2005, 04:22:04 am »
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.../...
For discussions on xfce4 :
....xfce4, last version : thread when I compiled it, comments from testers.
xfce finetuning : recent thread (nice screenshots of the menu).
xfce4-files : the files (the base package is in /SD).

Have fun,
Chero.
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Oops ... I'm impressed by all the litterature about XFCE ...!

So, ... "Chero"  is a hidden contraction of "Cheered Hero" ...?

Reading all that, I have to admit that I'm not so "specialized" as all these guys who discuss of a lot of things, without never saying what it is. I surely need more "basic" explanation. This is probably also a comment justified for other open source developments ...

So, in my situation, if I only make the same "ipkg" commands with "uninstall", my KDE will be removed ?

And to install XFCE, is it sufficient to make the same "ipkg -d ... install ..." for all the ".ipk" files in "http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/" ?

(For the moment beeing, the only files which I feel able to install properly are the ".jpg"   :=O)

Sorry to come back to very basic things ...

And thank's for all these comments already. I will surely come back on the KDE problem later, but I will first og to the simplest and more efficient tool that can replace it.

... 'soon require the URL to enlist in your XFCE fan club !!!

Micla.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Kde 3.4 On Pdaxrom. The Alone Interesting Thread !
« on: July 26, 2005, 01:15:38 pm »
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1) about the size :
- there is an ipk around somewhere that does show the size
- I'll check the size of the packages (after installing)

2) about df not working for /mnt/cflinux :
- are you sure you installed to cf, or did you install to /mnt/cflinux (which is a common dir if nothing is mounted to it - ls will work then).
- what does df show ?

3) about mounting at startup :
- search the forum for "partitioning SD". There is a thread where is explained what to do.
- to mount it manually, I think the command is "mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/cflinux" (/mnt/cflinux must exist)

4) about installing :
- did you replace (package.you.want.to.install) with the correct names ?

Chero
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1) After "manual mounting, i've got :
- df on /mnt/cf : 324392 k-bytes (my FAT partition)
- df on /mnt/cflinux : 170339 k-bytes (ext2)

2) I've no longer observed this phenomenon : "ls" working and "df" non working.  Now, both of them run fine.

3) Despite a dedicated line into /etc/fstab, my partition /mnt/cflinux is still not automatically mounted (line = /dev/hda2<TAB>/mnt/cflinux<TAB>auto<TAB>noauto,owner, as well as for /dev/hda1 which mounts perfectly and automatically as /mnt/cf).
The thread about "partitionning SD" speaks all along about the file /etc/sdcontrol. But I'm not SD, I'm CF ...! and I've found nothing like /etc/cfcontrol.

I think that there is also a CF access pb due to the fact that I go in the USB system tool, and select the Disk choice, precisely on the CF device (which gives access to /mnt/cf). Then, my Z + its CF acts as a USB key. But I have observed some dysfunctionning after such uses ...

4) about installing : Yes ...! I've perfectly taken the correct name ...!   :-))))
Each ipkg command gives me error like :
# ipkg -d /mt/cflinux install /mnt/cf/kdebase*  <RETURN>
ERROR: File not found: /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/cacko-unstable
            You probably want to run `ipkg update'
Installing kdebase...[AND HERE, AFTER A LOOOONG TIME:]Done.
*** Command: add
*** Locating package
Package "kdebase" not found on external storages.
#

. One thing surprising inside that is that it begins with an error message (till ... update').
. Then the line "Installing  .....  Done."  seems to indicate that something has correctly run.
. And then a second error message ("...not found ...") which seems desesperate for this way of installing.

5) Of course, KDE fails to start normally, without surprise after all that :
a. If I start the normal WM, and then type "startkde" in an aterm, I have : startkde : not found".
b. If I try a "ls /usr/lib", I have a long listing, but "ls /usr/lib/kde" gives "ls ... no such file or directoy".
c. But "ln -sf /usr/lib/kde/bin/startkde ~/.xinitrc" gave no comment, and "startx" has started something strange : I have had 3 great "term" windows opened, no task bar, nothing graphic, and hopefully, typing exit, all has shut and i could come back to the normal command-line. I made "rm ~/.xinitrc", reput the original one which I had copied as .xinitrc_old, and now my "normal" WM starts again. It's an adventure ...!!!

6) I've found (but I don't re-find where) that I also had to install : libxml2, libxslt, libart, pcre, qt-mt, and I've added kdepim qt-headers because it sounded respectively interesting & reasonnable ...

7) And for the end : ... Do you have sense of humour ...? I've been said on an other side that "XFCE" would be preferable to KDE which asks too much processor-power and is too complex for a machine like the Zaurus. And ... I see that you use XFCE ...? What do you think about the compared installation and uses of KDE & XFCE ?

TIA for all helpers, and 1st of all for all readers ...!

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Kde 3.4 On Pdaxrom. The Alone Interesting Thread !
« on: July 19, 2005, 09:55:54 am »
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About your cf : 340 + 180 = 520. I'm not sure you can have this on a 512Mb cf.
   Well, you're right : we should always be precise :
   - my FAT16 partition is
   - my ext2 partition is

Are you sure your ext2 partition is big enough ?
   No ... I'm sure of nothing.  Is there a way to know what is the size needed.

If you are, try reinstalling using "ipkg":
   I've tried "however" ...:
   But it appear that I have pbs with my compact flash card.  I cannot have it mounted automatically at startup.
   Breaking news : at the second where I write this, I make a last test, and I find that "ls /mnt/cflinux" runs perfectly, but "mount" gives nothing for /mnt/cflinux ...!!! More, the command "df" does not know /mnt/cflinux, even if I can still list it with "ls".

# ipkg -d /mnt/cflinux install (package.you.want.to.install)
Install both kde packages this way (libs and base)
   -> ipkg tried, and totally unsuccessful...
   When I execute this command, I have :
     "ERROR File not found: /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/cacko-unstable
                  You probably want to run 'ipkg update'
      Installing pcre... Done
      *** Command : add
      *** Locating package
      package "pcre" not found on external storages"
      For this test, i am in the /home/root dir, and the  pcre*.ipk is in it also.
      I've tested this from the root of /mnt/cflinux, but with no more success.

Check the output.
If i installs OK, startx (the default window manager)
In an aterm : "startkde", wait.
   ... Still far from that !!!

If kde starts OK, quit it again, quit matchbox, then do the ln -s trick on the .xinitrc-file.
(it is explained in the thread pgas mentioned). Or better : modify it so you have the choice between matchbox and kde (and a lot of others if you like). (this is also explained in the thread pgas mentioned)

Chero.
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So, I'm stuck ...

Would you know a way to go ahead ?

Thank's by advance,

Micla

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Kde 3.4 On Pdaxrom. The Alone Interesting Thread !
« on: July 13, 2005, 11:13:08 am »
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Hi,

Some questions:

What Z are you using ?
What does package manager say (is KDE in "installed" or "available"). I flashed my Z a couple of days ago, KDE was on SD before and it still works after flashing.
When you type "startkde" in an aterm, what does it say?

Chero.
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Sorry, I missed a part of the answer : the graphical package manager does not have "kde" in its "installed packages". More, I saw that my $PATH contains /usr/lib/kde/bin
even if this dir. doesn't exist. The dir. which exists is /mnt/cflinux/usr/lib/kde/bin.

There are mistakes in mistakes.  Is there some hope, doctor ?

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Kde 3.4 On Pdaxrom. The Alone Interesting Thread !
« on: July 13, 2005, 10:59:07 am »
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Hi,

Some questions:

What Z are you using ?
What does package manager say (is KDE in "installed" or "available"). I flashed my Z a couple of days ago, KDE was on SD before and it still works after flashing.
When you type "startkde" in an aterm, what does it say?

Chero.
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I have a 860 and a CF card 512 MB, partitioned (since yesterday, or maybe even this morning very very soon !!!) in hda1 - ~340 MB - FAT16  and  hda2 - 180MB - ext2.

The command says "bash: starkde: command not found". Which is perfectly normal since all the kde stuff is on the CF, and nothing on the newly flashed pdaXrom indicates to it that it has to go and find it on /mnt/cflinux/usr/blablabla.

What is even more tiring is that the "/etc/fstab" looses the memory during the flash operation (which is normal, in fact). Then, I always have to ad the line
"/dev/hda2<tab>/mnr/cflinux<tab>auto<tab>noauto,owner<tab>0<3 or 4 x blank>0"
so as to help him recover memory.

You think there is an easy way to go around that ?

And when I could get my hda2 mounted, and made the link "ln -sf blablabla ~/.xinitrc" (found I don't remember where on this forum), there is really something called "starkde" whcih starts, and then crashes some tenth of seconds later, saying blablabla not found, blablabla unreachable, blablabla unauthorized.

Well, some day I'm more precise ... Tired perhaps ...  If you need, I can redo all the manip and give you a faithful track of the result.

Thank's for any help.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Kde 3.4 On Pdaxrom. The Alone Interesting Thread !
« on: July 13, 2005, 06:55:46 am »
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ooops I cut a digit, this one:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12702

( kde thread)
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Yes, thank's ! But I read it already. Perhaps more : maybe I "learned" it. But either it's not precise enough, either I understand slowly ... Humm let's say 50 / 50.

There is also another link which I don't find again at the moment.  What has helped me the more (until here) are the pages about CF partitioning and formating.

But ... It has obviously not been sufficient.  No matter, my install *will* work.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Kde 3.4 On Pdaxrom. The Alone Interesting Thread !
« on: July 13, 2005, 06:50:50 am »
A question just following the need of a "HowTo install KDE" above pdaXrom :

What about a "HowTo ... reinstall it", when the first installation has aborted, and you cannot find a way to make the install run.

For example : I have made the install of KDE on a dedicated "ext2" partition on my CF card, with perfect respect of advices found on this forums. And then my pdaXrom has no longer given signs of life.

So I reinstalled pdaXrom from the three install files. But my CF is still filled with a complete stuff of /usr things related to kde, and I'm completely unable to "reconnect" it with the newly reinstalled pdaXrom.

There are surely variables to declare in some .xxxrc files, and also some additional dirs to add to the PATH. But, what, where, how (why, how much) ...?

Would there be any doc explaining what must be done "the day after" ... after the first unsuccessful install ?

"Installing" is a great activity in software, but the more I use free software, the more I discover that the greatest activity (in time spent) is to re-install, which is frequently far more difficult !!!

Ideas, links, comments ?   ... "docs" ?

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Kde 3.4 On Pdaxrom. The Alone Interesting Thread !
« on: July 13, 2005, 06:33:04 am »
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this thread contains some information about kde:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1270
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topic 1270 ...?  You are sure ...?

Well, anyway, I've found some threads speaking about KDE, but obviously a thread fully dedicated to this matter is still necessary.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Kde 3.4 On Pdaxrom. The Alone Interesting Thread !
« on: July 13, 2005, 05:22:46 am »
Hi everybody,

I'm surprised not to find more discussions about the port of KDE 3.4 on pdaXrom.

This seems however to be one of the greatest recent news, and a new topic is perfectly justified.

The first questions that could/should be discussed here are :

1. Is there a "HowTo" or a general doc for installing KDE above pdaXrom ?
2. Could KDE run above other Zaurus ROMs ?
3. What are the applications already available with this KDE ?
4. What are the compatibility issues between native KDE apps and pre-existing pdaXrom apps ?
5. Is there a gcc sdkable to recompile on Zaurus (and for Zaurus) simple applications taken in the KDE source repository (or other repositories) ?

I hope that this thread may carry many more questions again. A great new door is opened, let's use it.

Hi readers, reply, send comments, add questions, correct mistakes, but don't let this thread quiet !

Micla.

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