Kde 3.4 On Pdaxrom. The Alone Interesting Thread !

[Micla]

Hi everybody,

I'm surprised not to find more discussions about the port of KDE 3.4 on pdaXrom.

This seems however to be one of the greatest recent news, and a new topic is perfectly justified.

The first questions that could/should be discussed here are :

1. Is there a "HowTo" or a general doc for installing KDE above pdaXrom ?
2. Could KDE run above other Zaurus ROMs ?
3. What are the applications already available with this KDE ?
4. What are the compatibility issues between native KDE apps and pre-existing pdaXrom apps ?
5. Is there a gcc sdkable to recompile on Zaurus (and for Zaurus) simple applications taken in the KDE source repository (or other repositories) ?

I hope that this thread may carry many more questions again. A great new door is opened, let's use it.

Hi readers, reply, send comments, add questions, correct mistakes, but don't let this thread quiet !

Micla.

[pgas]

this thread contains some information about kde:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12702

* edit url fixed

[Micla]

this thread contains some information about kde:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1270
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topic 1270 ...?  You are sure ...?

Well, anyway, I've found some threads speaking about KDE, but obviously a thread fully dedicated to this matter is still necessary.

[pgas]

ooops I cut a digit, this one:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12702

( kde thread)

[Micla]

A question just following the need of a "HowTo install KDE" above pdaXrom :

What about a "HowTo ... reinstall it", when the first installation has aborted, and you cannot find a way to make the install run.

For example : I have made the install of KDE on a dedicated "ext2" partition on my CF card, with perfect respect of advices found on this forums. And then my pdaXrom has no longer given signs of life.

So I reinstalled pdaXrom from the three install files. But my CF is still filled with a complete stuff of /usr things related to kde, and I'm completely unable to "reconnect" it with the newly reinstalled pdaXrom.

There are surely variables to declare in some .xxxrc files, and also some additional dirs to add to the PATH. But, what, where, how (why, how much) ...?

Would there be any doc explaining what must be done "the day after" ... after the first unsuccessful install ?

"Installing" is a great activity in software, but the more I use free software, the more I discover that the greatest activity (in time spent) is to re-install, which is frequently far more difficult !!!

Ideas, links, comments ?   ... "docs" ?

[Micla]

ooops I cut a digit, this one:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12702

( kde thread)
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Yes, thank's ! But I read it already. Perhaps more : maybe I "learned" it. But either it's not precise enough, either I understand slowly ... Humm let's say 50 / 50.

There is also another link which I don't find again at the moment.  What has helped me the more (until here) are the pages about CF partitioning and formating.

But ... It has obviously not been sufficient.  No matter, my install *will* work.

[Chero]

Hi,

Some questions:

What Z are you using ?
What does package manager say (is KDE in "installed" or "available"). I flashed my Z a couple of days ago, KDE was on SD before and it still works after flashing.
When you type "startkde" in an aterm, what does it say?

Chero.

[Micla]

Hi,

Some questions:

What Z are you using ?
What does package manager say (is KDE in "installed" or "available"). I flashed my Z a couple of days ago, KDE was on SD before and it still works after flashing.
When you type "startkde" in an aterm, what does it say?

Chero.
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I have a 860 and a CF card 512 MB, partitioned (since yesterday, or maybe even this morning very very soon !!!) in hda1 - ~340 MB - FAT16  and  hda2 - 180MB - ext2.

The command says "bash: starkde: command not found". Which is perfectly normal since all the kde stuff is on the CF, and nothing on the newly flashed pdaXrom indicates to it that it has to go and find it on /mnt/cflinux/usr/blablabla.

What is even more tiring is that the "/etc/fstab" looses the memory during the flash operation (which is normal, in fact). Then, I always have to ad the line
"/dev/hda2<tab>/mnr/cflinux<tab>auto<tab>noauto,owner<tab>0<3 or 4 x blank>0"
so as to help him recover memory.

You think there is an easy way to go around that ?

And when I could get my hda2 mounted, and made the link "ln -sf blablabla ~/.xinitrc" (found I don't remember where on this forum), there is really something called "starkde" whcih starts, and then crashes some tenth of seconds later, saying blablabla not found, blablabla unreachable, blablabla unauthorized.

Well, some day I'm more precise ... Tired perhaps ...  If you need, I can redo all the manip and give you a faithful track of the result.

Thank's for any help.

[Micla]

Hi,

Some questions:

What Z are you using ?
What does package manager say (is KDE in "installed" or "available"). I flashed my Z a couple of days ago, KDE was on SD before and it still works after flashing.
When you type "startkde" in an aterm, what does it say?

Chero.
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Sorry, I missed a part of the answer : the graphical package manager does not have "kde" in its "installed packages". More, I saw that my $PATH contains /usr/lib/kde/bin
even if this dir. doesn't exist. The dir. which exists is /mnt/cflinux/usr/lib/kde/bin.

There are mistakes in mistakes.  Is there some hope, doctor ?

[Chero]

There's always hope !
BTW, there are real doctors around here but I'm just a nurse.

About your cf : 340 + 180 = 520. I'm not sure you can have this on a 512Mb cf.
Are you sure your ext2 partition is big enough ?

If you are, try reinstalling using "ipkg":

# ipkg -d /mnt/cflinux install (package.you.want.to.install)
Install both kde packages this way (libs and base)

Check the output.
If i installs OK, startx (the default window manager)
In an aterm : "startkde", wait.

If kde starts OK, quit it again, quit matchbox, then do the ln -s trick on the .xinitrc-file.
(it is explained in the thread pgas mentioned). Or better : modify it so you have the choice between matchbox and kde (and a lot of others if you like). (this is also explained in the thread pgas mentioned)

Chero.

[adf]

does khtml work? was that something I neglected?or something missing?

[law]

where can i find the source from the kdelibs and kdebase package?

are there any patches applied how looks the ./configure command?

can you give me some infos please?

thanks

law

[pgas]

where can i find the source from the kdelibs and kdebase package?

are there any patches applied how looks the ./configure command?

Download the builder:
http://212.10.30.205/rc10/builder/

you will find in a file the url from which the sources are downloaded as well as the patches. you will need to search a little... (not i didn't check if kde has been added but I think it should have)

(instructions for using the builder here:
http://212.10.30.205/docs/pdaxrom-builder/...-rom-yourself/)

[Micla]

About your cf : 340 + 180 = 520. I'm not sure you can have this on a 512Mb cf.
   Well, you're right : we should always be precise :
   - my FAT16 partition is
   - my ext2 partition is

Are you sure your ext2 partition is big enough ?
   No ... I'm sure of nothing.  Is there a way to know what is the size needed.

If you are, try reinstalling using "ipkg":
   I've tried "however" ...:
   But it appear that I have pbs with my compact flash card.  I cannot have it mounted automatically at startup.
   Breaking news : at the second where I write this, I make a last test, and I find that "ls /mnt/cflinux" runs perfectly, but "mount" gives nothing for /mnt/cflinux ...!!! More, the command "df" does not know /mnt/cflinux, even if I can still list it with "ls".

# ipkg -d /mnt/cflinux install (package.you.want.to.install)
Install both kde packages this way (libs and base)
   -> ipkg tried, and totally unsuccessful...
   When I execute this command, I have :
     "ERROR File not found: /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/cacko-unstable
                  You probably want to run 'ipkg update'
      Installing pcre... Done
      *** Command : add
      *** Locating package
      package "pcre" not found on external storages"
      For this test, i am in the /home/root dir, and the  pcre*.ipk is in it also.
      I've tested this from the root of /mnt/cflinux, but with no more success.

Check the output.
If i installs OK, startx (the default window manager)
In an aterm : "startkde", wait.
   ... Still far from that !!!

If kde starts OK, quit it again, quit matchbox, then do the ln -s trick on the .xinitrc-file.
(it is explained in the thread pgas mentioned). Or better : modify it so you have the choice between matchbox and kde (and a lot of others if you like). (this is also explained in the thread pgas mentioned)

Chero.
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So, I'm stuck ...

Would you know a way to go ahead ?

Thank's by advance,

Micla

[Chero]

If you are, try reinstalling using "ipkg":
   I've tried "however" ...:
   But it appear that I have pbs with my compact flash card.  I cannot have it mounted automatically at startup.
   Breaking news : at the second where I write this, I make a last test, and I find that "ls /mnt/cflinux" runs perfectly, but "mount" gives nothing for /mnt/cflinux ...!!! More, the command "df" does not know /mnt/cflinux, even if I can still list it with "ls".

# ipkg -d /mnt/cflinux install (package.you.want.to.install)
Install both kde packages this way (libs and base)
   -> ipkg tried, and totally unsuccessful...
   When I execute this command, I have :
     "ERROR File not found: /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/cacko-unstable
                  You probably want to run 'ipkg update'
      Installing pcre... Done
      *** Command : add
      *** Locating package
      package "pcre" not found on external storages"
      For this test, i am in the /home/root dir, and the  pcre*.ipk is in it also.
      I've tested this from the root of /mnt/cflinux, but with no more success.

about the size :
- there is an ipk around somewhere that does show the size
- I'll check the size of the packages (after installing)

about df not working for /mnt/cflinux :
- are you sure you installed to cf, or did you install to /mnt/cflinux (which is a common dir if nothing is mounted to it - ls will work then).
- what does df show ?

about mounting at startup :
- search the forum for "partitioning SD". There is a thread where is explained what to do.
- to mount it manually, I think the command is "mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/cflinux" (/mnt/cflinux must exist)

about installing :
- did you replace (package.you.want.to.install) with the correct names ?

Chero