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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Call For Donations For Poodle Hardware

« on: March 03, 2006, 03:30:40 am »

Oh well, tried for two 5600s so far but price passed $200 on each.

I'm not prepared to go beyond that until there are more promises of contributions, but I will keep trying up to that point as others appear on ebay.

Robert Jenkins.

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Call For Donations For Poodle Hardware

« on: March 01, 2006, 10:33:32 am »

OK, that's three promised contributions (including me) in a day, I will go for the 5600 that's currently on ebay & hope there are one or two more contributions over the next few days.

I bought a 5600 myself a few months ago & hope to do some development or debugging once I get my head around the Bitbake system..

Robert Jenkins.
(rjenkinsgb on ebay - I hope no one on here is also bidding on the same 5600!)

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Call For Donations For Poodle Hardware

« on: February 28, 2006, 07:44:34 am »

Hi,

I'll happily contribute $30 towards a 5600 for the OZ team.


I could, if no one else is volunteering, organise the purchase:
If a few others will make firm promises to contribute, I will undertake to buy one from ebay & pass it on to HRW.

AFTER he's confirmed reciept of the machine, the promised amounts could be paid to my paypal account to offset the cost.

I would publish full details of amounts received on here.

It looks like they are going for around $180, so if five people & myself each pledge $30 it should about cover it....

Any contributers?

Robert Jenkins.

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5x00 General discussions / Can Anyone Recommend Good Cf Cards

« on: December 17, 2005, 02:34:17 pm »

Hi,
Silencer51; What's the model No. of your Symbol CF WiFi Card?

I've just bought one from ebay (still shrink wrapped) and I cannot get it to work with OZ on my 5600, I've spent many hours trying different things without any success.

Thanks,
Robert Jenkins.

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Cannot Get Socket Wifi Card To Work Under Oz 3.5.3

« on: December 16, 2005, 07:55:43 am »

Hi Si,
many thanks for the offer of assistance!

I've now got a machine set up with a clean install of Fedora core 4, plus all the required packages mentioned in the Open Embedded info & the ARM toolchain.

It looks like it should work, but I've not had time yet to try actually building anything.

One thing that bothers me with this setup, is how do you guarantee a consistent build? It appears to download and patch sources on the fly as it needs them, so each person building the 'same' (eg) OZ 3.5.4 package could actually end up with different binaries - is this correct??

Do the 'final' patched sources get saved, like into a local copy of the kernel source tree etc?


On the Symbol / Orinoco drivers again, I found this which I think is a definitive answer (from hostap mailing list archive):
-------------------
On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 13:51 -0500, Adam Roach wrote:
> I have a Symbol Spectrum24 High Rate LA4137 wireless lan card.  I was
> wondering if this is what I need to be using to get it working.

No, this card has Symbol chipset, whereas HostAP requires Prism chipset.
You should use Orinoco driver instead.

--
Regards,
Pavel Roskin
--------------------

I've also found more references to other ROM builds for the Zaurus series in which the Orinoco package works with the Symbol LA4137 Card.

Note that my Symbol card is 'new' but with a manufacturing date of 2003 & driver CD dated 2001; it's hardly the latest Symbol hardware version.
I get the impression that the very latest Symbol cards do use a different chipset, possibly Hermes2 from some list posts, but the 4137 is covered by the Orinoco spectrum driver.

I still think the problem is in the OZ build or the particular Orinoco source version used in it, or the libraries / tool chain used with OZ.
The dmesg errors are very similar to the ones Michael Lauer reported in the Orinoco mailing list, as if there is a problem with the 'hermes' module accessing the card hardware?


Robert Jenkins.

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Cannot Get Socket Wifi Card To Work Under Oz 3.5.3

« on: December 14, 2005, 04:32:23 am »

And more:
It looks as if loading the card firmware is done during the PCMCIA 'card inserted' setup & this is working - the light on the card is flashing.

According to the Zaurus user group WiFi page, half the supported cards are Prism 2.5, including the Symbol & Socket cards.
http://www.zaurususergroup.org/modules.php...lessCardSupport

The driver they specify for these is 'the Spectrum/Socket CF driver by Pavel Roskin'. The page this is on is dated 2002, not exactly a new development.
http://www.cypherpunks.ca/zaurus/socket.html

(It's a different build of the package to the previous working one I'd seen from the Sharp site).

I don't want to go back to the Sharp rom, but it's starting to look like the only way of getting this Symbol card working in the near future
The reason I bought this in the first place was because of all the recommendations I'd seen for it... I assumed anything that worked with the rather old Sharp roms would have been covered in the OZ roms.

From some of the posts on the Orinoco mailing lists, it appears there could be a problem with builds for ARM against the more recent kernels, which does not seem to have been followed up?

Does anyone on here have the sources for the Orinoco drivers, as used on the 3.5.4Rc build & do you know a (working) link to the Sharp sources, or has anyone got a copy they have grabbed?
I'm aware of the Orinoco project & CVS, but I would like to compare the exact files used in the Z builds after any patching etc.

I'm setting up to do a full OE build from scratch so I can try & debug the drivers, but from what I have read so far that's probably going to take a very long time to get running sucessfully..

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Cannot Get Socket Wifi Card To Work Under Oz 3.5.3

« on: December 10, 2005, 05:35:50 pm »

I don't follow your reasoning..

If that's the case, how did russilwvong get exactly the same card as mine running with the same Orinoco driver, albeit a slightly older version?

I've been studying the Orinoco sources, I get the impression that it's a build problem or bug with the driver rather than a fundamental incompatibility.
(The Sharp 0.12 build works, the Opie 0.13e build does not.)

Note this line:
hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match type (0x0021)

The working example has Station identity 0021:0002:0002:0001
The 0021 is what identifies the card as a Symbol type to the driver.

The duff one is apparently reading the 0x0021, but when it's finished building the station identity block it's corrupt, probably offset by two words to give the 0002:0001:33fb:33cb

The driver then sees the initial 0002 in place of 0021 and goes haywire from that point, trying to handle it as an Agere device rather than Symbol.

More:
Working throught the hermes & orinoco code, it looks like the 0xfd20 is a command sent to the card to retrieve a specific data block.
This should return the block length, the original request code, then the data.
It's seeing the first word of the 'station identity' data in place of the block type code, then the remainder of the data is offset by two words.

It seems that somehow the buffering is getting out of step with the read data in the 'hermes' module.

This is during the basic, low-level, card init & ID stuff, before the driver tries to identify which specific card it's working with.

Could the be something to do with the structure alignment problem I've seen mentioned elsewhere?


Robert Jenkins.

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Cannot Get Socket Wifi Card To Work Under Oz 3.5.3

« on: December 09, 2005, 06:17:02 pm »

Hi,
I'm having exactly the same problem with my 5600 + Opie 3.5.4-RC
Has anyone found a solution to this yet?

I've spent many hours searching for info & trying various solution (but only just found this topic..)

The card I have is a Symbol Spectrum24 Wireless networker, LA-4137-1020-WW

This appears to match the entry in spectrum.conf
card "LA4100 Spectrum24 CF WLAN Card"
 manfid 0x026c, 0x0001
 bind "spectrum_cs"

The one thing I have noticed is that the dmesg output we are seeing is rather different from a working setup with one of these cards (taken from the end of this post re. the Sharp rom by russilwvong: https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14812 )

Good:
hermes.c: 7 Jun 2002 David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
orinoco.c 0.12 (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au> and others)
spectrum_cs.c 0.3.4
eth0: Station identity 0021:0002:0002:0001
eth0: Looks like a Symbol firmware version [F3.10-06] (parsing to 31006)
eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported
eth0: WEP supported, 104-bit key
eth0: MAC address 00:A0:F8:A0:C3:56
eth0: Station name "Prism  I"
eth0: ready
eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 35, io 0xf6000000-0xf6000047

Bad (first few lines):
orinoco.c 0.13e (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au> and others)
spectrum_cs.c 0.4.2 (Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org> and others)
hermes @ IO 0xf6000000: hermes_read_ltv(): rid  (0xfd20) does not match type (0x0021)
hermes @ IO 0xf6000000: Truncating LTV record from 129544 to 8 bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0xfd05)
eth0: Station identity 0002:0001:33fb:33cb
eth0: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware v

The driver modules load in a different sequence & the card is mis-identified as Lucent/Agere rather than Symbol..
Any clues here?

Robert Jenkins.

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Oz 3.5.4 Rc Bug & Work-around List

« on: December 06, 2005, 09:06:36 am »

Hi,
new user, 5600 bought with Sharp V1 rom, formatted & flashed to Sharp version 1.32 then flashed to OZ 3.5.4-RC

I've noticed one (possibly serious) problem which may explain why different people have different results with the same install:

Despite the warning on the OZ site that all data will be lost, my Z still has the user data and some text files I copied over while on the Sharp 1.32 Rom...
I'm guessing that other types of user-added file may also be left intact & this could account for the odd behaiviour some users see?

When I formatted with the Sharp 1.0 Rom, and also after the flash to 1.32, I had to enter my name etc. before I could continue; all user-added stuff was apparently removed.

Formatting now seems to have no effect at all.
Is there any way to restore the machine to it's 'virgin' state?


Only other problem noticed so far is that with a Symbol LA-4137 CF WiFi card inserted, attempting to open the network applet causes a solid crash with fine vertical lines on the screen.

R Jenkins.

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Security and Networking / 5600+symbol La4137 Config Help Please

« on: December 06, 2005, 08:39:23 am »

Just found a thread relating to this exact problem, query moved there:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14464&st=0

R Jenkins.