Author Topic: Fusion Of Zaurus And '00 Accord (Read 16404 times)

Xumbi · « **on:** April 19, 2005, 01:18:11 pm »

Ok, prepare for a long post, but first, something to pique your curiosity:

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The mount from behind, notice the vorbis fish!

Xumbi · « **Reply #1 on:** April 19, 2005, 01:20:17 pm »

Xumbi · « **Reply #2 on:** April 19, 2005, 01:20:44 pm »

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Family Guy!

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Gladiator!

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Call for Help!

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I'm not sure why I'd want to, but I can play music over the USB connection with XMMS.

I know that I've left out some specifics, but if you want more information feel free to reply or send me a PM.

doc · « **Reply #3 on:** April 19, 2005, 02:12:06 pm »

That brings to mind that great song by Styx...."Too much time on my hands!"

That's awesome!

Laze · « **Reply #4 on:** April 19, 2005, 03:19:32 pm »

A quick and stupid question.. Did you try remote desktop instead of VNC.. Remote Desktop works quite different that VNC and not as much traffic - maybe that won't cause hissing noises.

Xumbi · « **Reply #5 on:** April 19, 2005, 03:28:32 pm »

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A quick and stupid question.. Did you try remote desktop instead of VNC.. Remote Desktop works quite different that VNC and not as much traffic - maybe that won't cause hissing noises.
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Well, yes and no. As far as I know, rdesktop only works with desktop sharing in XP, and I'm running 2000, is that right? However, in the past I have remotely connected with rdesktop to systems running XP, but when I try to play audio it gets confused and errors out. It's like it tries to play the audio on the computer running the remote connection. Maybe there is a way around that?

If I knew that I could make the audio play on the computer and not the Zaurus, then I would love to give it a try.

Gondola · « **Reply #6 on:** April 19, 2005, 03:36:39 pm »

Cool stuff, but the VNC issue sounds like a dealbreaker for me.

If using VNC causes the hissing and popping, it sounds like the USB traffic between the Z and the PC is causing the issue.. which means the USB cables aren't shielded enough? Maybe try USB->Cat5 on the Z and then run one cat5 drop through the car instead of all those USB cables. You'd at least cut out all the USB extensions.

Which machine is actually outputting audio? I assumed it was the PC.

Still, good job!

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Xumbi · « **Reply #7 on:** April 19, 2005, 03:42:23 pm »

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Cool stuff, but the VNC issue sounds like a dealbreaker for me.

If using VNC causes the hissing and popping, it sounds like the USB traffic between the Z and the PC is causing the issue.. which means the USB cables aren't shielded enough? Maybe try USB->Cat5 on the Z and then run one cat5 drop through the car instead of all those USB cables. You'd at least cut out all the USB extensions.

Which machine is actually outputting audio? I assumed it was the PC.

Still, good job!

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In all of the pictures except for the last 4 the sound is coming from the computer. In the last 4 pictures I used smbmount to mount the drive on the computer on my Zaurus, so the sound comes from the Z.

Laze might have come up with a solution by using rdesktop, I'm looking into it right now. If not, using shielded cables sounds like a good idea to try!

UPDATE:

After googling I found this for rdesktop and "device redirection":

"local" means "Bring to this computer"
"off" means "Do not play"
"remote" means "Leave at remote computer"

Example: -r audio:remote

Now I just have to install terminal services (I think) on my car computer and see if I can get this working. Maybe this will fix the noise!

UPDATE:

Crap, it looks like you have to pay for terminal services for win2k. Oh well, maybe I'll have to upgrade to xp pro...

seinfield · « **Reply #8 on:** April 19, 2005, 07:43:45 pm »

Good Job.

Can you make a HOW TO???

I do not know linux, and i want to do what you did, but using my laptop

Regards
Gilberto

Xumbi · « **Reply #9 on:** April 19, 2005, 08:51:02 pm »

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Good Job.

Can you make a HOW TO???

I do not know linux, and i want to do what you did, but using my laptop

Regards
Gilberto
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Well, this thread is probably as close to a howto as I am capable of producing. The best resource I've found is [a href=\"http://mp3car.com]mp3car.com[/url], although they're not very nice to "newbies".

So do you have a Zaurus that you want to use to connect to your laptop, or do you just have the laptop?

luka · « **Reply #10 on:** April 19, 2005, 10:05:57 pm »

Man this is *great* i was thinking what to do next with my Z , looks like you have made it easy for me.

A little suggestion, you dont have to use a adapter charger you can make yourself a USB charger, just plug it in that ol Pentium and you have saved yourself some place under the seat

here is the link ( japanese - use bablefish)

http ://cc-sakura.dip.jp/eldar-star/doc/usbpow.htm

cheers!

kronchev · « **Reply #11 on:** April 20, 2005, 01:46:24 am »

wow, you did an amazing job.

sucks about the hissing and such. i wonder if I could get this kind of thing set up with my axim....with wireless

whats really stopped me is the fact that i have no way to input to my stereo. its a goddamn blaupunkt and you need a special hardness for input which i dont have no can I find anymore (long been discontinued model). FM transmitters suck for me. I might just hook up a modulator since the antenna is right next to my trunk

you dont say how the computer is secured, is it?

Laze · « **Reply #12 on:** April 20, 2005, 02:35:15 am »

Hmmm... I think default behaviour for sound is to leave it on the PC you connect to - but it should be documented in the help for rdesktop.

But as manu have suggested its probally problems with badly shielded USB cables... Try disconnectin the entire thing so the pc and stuff is on the frontseat right next to the car radio ;-)

zmiq2 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 20, 2005, 05:51:47 am »

And what about connecting the zaurus to the PC via wifi or bluetooth, thus getting rid of the usb completelly ?

omega · « **Reply #14 on:** April 20, 2005, 07:03:53 am »

My suggestion, as an electronics engineer is that it's something to do with a grounding issue........ Question. Does it happen when you use vnc but disconnect the charging cable from the sharp i/o connector.

Using a switch mode power supply on an invertor is not the best of ideas... (the zaurus charger). IF my suggestion solves your problem, make a plug from your computers 5v line to the zaurus...

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