New Zaurus This Summer?

[ScottYelich]

um
flash != RAM

Ya, I would have LOVED 128MB RAM.   but it didn't happen this time.

[rebski]

Yes, I too am disappointed, Trisoft’s announcement raised my expectations to an unrealistic level.

Nonetheless, having said that and if this is the only new Zaurus on the horizon then I shall probably buy one.

[amrein]

Unrealistic? 128 Mo RAM, 800*480, Bluetooth, Wifi, CF 4Go, keys for audio Record/Play/Plause, localised keyboard and an open documentation. Still Unrealistic? Even smartphones have  Bluetooth+Wifi+harddrive nowaday.

The future nokia  is more or less with the same specification (the external CF + SD port + keyboard are missing). The OQO is more or less with the same specification. A few Pocket PC device too (without keyboard as always for most of them). Whatever, as long as the Eu/US market is not targeted, they won't bother. No problemo. I won't bother too (and we all know that they don't mind).

[rebski]

What is unrealistic is not the features that you list but the hope that Sharp will provide them.  That hope is gone now so there is no point on my holding off any longer on buying a new Zaurus.

Basically, I mind more about not having a Zaurus than Sharp does.

[speculatrix]

I think the key here is that the C3100 has much more potential than the 860, and offers the best of the 1000 & 3000.

- one more expansion slot than the 860
- as much flash as the 1000
- as much disk as the 3000

you can choose to replace the internal drive with a large CF (4GB turn up on ebay for less than US$250 now), or if your demand is for wireless a bluetooth card.

whether you can find an 802.11 wlan card that will fit is another matter! maybe you could crack open a symbol/socket card to remove the housing around the bulge and relocate the aerial etc?

Paul

[Cyril92]

talking about this new c3100 :

The result is that the c3000 is dead after a few month.

because of the particularity of the c3000 (I mean 16Mb flash), nobody will get involved in that machine anymore.

We won't see any new distros for it.
C3000 Owners : we have been screwed up !  

[amrein]

What is unrealistic is not the features that you list but the hope that Sharp will provide them.  That hope is gone now so there is no point on my holding off any longer on buying a new Zaurus.

Basically, I mind more about not having a Zaurus than Sharp does.
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I agree with you.

I'm angry with Sharp HP Motorola Nokia Texas Intrument Sony and all other harware manufacturers. It's like if they didn't want to do anything on the software side and now they begin to be lazy on hardware too.

YOU WON'T HAVE MY MONEY !!!!!!!

(Appologize for the previous post rebski. Wasn"t against you.)

[chuckster]

I don't own a Zaurus (yet), but I've been following this thread as I ponder which model to buy. This is probably a gross simplification, but it seems to me that the C3100 can be looked at in 2 ways:

1. It's exactly like the C1000, but with the 4Gb HD.
or
2. It's exactly like the C3000, but with more flash RAM.

So if #1 is accurate, am I right in thinking that the ROMs that currently work on the C1000 should work with the C3100 or is there more to it?

[bluedevils]

There is probably more to it, but not much more.  Just taking a guess, I don't think a cacko 1000 rom will work on a 3100.  On the other hand the differences should be trivial enough for the developers to port it over to the 3100 easily.

[nilch]

There is already a C3000 ROM (beta factoring in the 4GB space used a flash), and hence that cant be used for the C1000. There is a similar ROM in the works for C1000 (factoring out the 4GB built in HDD).

So the C1000 ROM in theory should be usable on the C3100 easily.

The C3100 was a real dissapointment - notwithstanding TriSoft's raising the expectation with his "nice surprise" countdown.
It doesnt have any - absolutely ANY REAL technological improvement over the C1000/3000. How depressing can his be.
I guess the Sharp engineers and designers are taking a much needed break while the marketing droids are pushing these incremental upgrades with some "hot" Japanese language learning software over and over again to the market.

We are not impressed.

Well again, I guess if Sharp can keep making money without any real re-designs and technology features on the existing Zaurus - then why will they not try to maximise their profits while the goings are good.
But hey, the others are catching up to Sharp's act fast - 4 GB internal HDD on a handheld (LifeDrive), Clamshell design (many), built-in keyboard (the uni.com thingie), VGA screens (Nokia), nice looks (Nokia & others), QT or other open architechture (Archos/Nokia) on top of Linux on the devices to make them open (soon Palm too) - , and if Sharp keeps doling out these same features with a give here, take there attitude, they are gonna lose it pretty fast.

[tg]

There is already a C3000 ROM (beta factoring in the 4GB space used a flash), and hence that cant be used for the C1000. There is a similar ROM in the works for C1000 (factoring out the 4GB built in HDD).

So the C1000 ROM in theory should be usable on the C3100 easily.

The C3100 was a real dissapointment - notwithstanding TriSoft's raising the expectation with his "nice surprise" countdown.
It doesnt have any - absolutely ANY REAL technological improvement over the C1000/3000. How depressing can his be.
I guess the Sharp engineers and designers are taking a much needed break while the marketing droids are pushing these incremental upgrades with some "hot" Japanese language learning software over and over again to the market.

We are not impressed.

You are so right. What Sharp is saying to users is "we know you are so dumb and/or desperate for Linux that you will take anything we give you" - and to prove it they actually go as far as to paint an existing model in different color and roll it out as "nice surprise" (of course with a different model number). This is a joke and even people at Sharp must be privatly laughing at all of us - at the same time there is still no one else who has quite cought up with them so for now they can still get away with it.

[seed]

There is already a C3000 ROM (beta factoring in the 4GB space used a flash), and hence that cant be used for the C1000. There is a similar ROM in the works for C1000 (factoring out the 4GB built in HDD).

So the C1000 ROM in theory should be usable on the C3100 easily.

The C3100 was a real dissapointment - notwithstanding TriSoft's raising the expectation with his "nice surprise" countdown.
It doesnt have any - absolutely ANY REAL technological improvement over the C1000/3000. How depressing can his be.
I guess the Sharp engineers and designers are taking a much needed break while the marketing droids are pushing these incremental upgrades with some "hot" Japanese language learning software over and over again to the market.

We are not impressed.

You are so right. What Sharp is saying to users is "we know you are so dumb and/or desperate for Linux that you will take anything we give you" - and to prove it they actually go as far as to paint an existing model in different color and roll it out as "nice surprise" (of course with a different model number). This is a joke and even people at Sharp must be privatly laughing at all of us - at the same time there is still no one else who has quite cought up with them so for now they can still get away with it.
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You too are so right ...
i wonder who will buy the new sl-c3100

[adf]

Nice machine for $500 us  Too bad that isn't the price.

[chuckster]

There is already a C3000 ROM (beta factoring in the 4GB space used a flash), and hence that cant be used for the C1000. There is a similar ROM in the works for C1000 (factoring out the 4GB built in HDD).

So the C1000 ROM in theory should be usable on the C3100 easily.

The C3100 was a real dissapointment - notwithstanding TriSoft's raising the expectation with his "nice surprise" countdown.
It doesnt have any - absolutely ANY REAL technological improvement over the C1000/3000. How depressing can his be.
I guess the Sharp engineers and designers are taking a much needed break while the marketing droids are pushing these incremental upgrades with some "hot" Japanese language learning software over and over again to the market.

We are not impressed.

You are so right. What Sharp is saying to users is "we know you are so dumb and/or desperate for Linux that you will take anything we give you" - and to prove it they actually go as far as to paint an existing model in different color and roll it out as "nice surprise" (of course with a different model number). This is a joke and even people at Sharp must be privatly laughing at all of us - at the same time there is still no one else who has quite cought up with them so for now they can still get away with it.
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You too are so right ...
i wonder who will buy the new sl-c3100
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I for one will give it serious consideration since I currently don't own a Z. From a new user POV what's not to love other than the higher price? It has the extra storage of the C3k, plus the "more standard" flash configuration of the C1k, which hopefully means it'll be easier to get other ROM support.

Granted, it was a bit of a letdown to see the only real differences were the black case and the extra flash, but it's still a cool machine, right? Sure I'd love to see built-in wifi, et. al. but there's always next year (or month...) And besides, it's not like they called it the C4k to make it sound like it has lots of new features. It's the C3.1k.

Just my  $.02

[AsLan^]

Anybody know why Sharp hasnt moved to a faster Xscale processor ?