Screenshots Of Rc10 Running Kde 3.4 Here

[adf]

trying the same now on my 6k.  I don't know if I'll keep it like this---- but it is nice to see that logo come up

[cody]

How many people here would use KDE if i were to 'tune' it for pdaXrom?
ie. battery, suspend, wifi, etc..
proper menus, slim it down...

does anyone care?

[Christoph]

How many people here would use KDE if i were to 'tune' it for pdaXrom?
ie. battery, suspend, wifi, etc..
proper menus, slim it down...

does anyone care?
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That would be great!
But there would be a lot of work to get it usable.
One thing I miss e.g. is the awareness of rotation.
For that to work the code would have to be patched.
Another is the use of rtti in KDE that blows up
the runtime code. If you would get rid of it it
should use less memory.

Christoph

[adf]

I think I would.  .....I have ambitions of running K3B on a usb cdr

seriously, if it were stable an the keymap was good and khtml (I have been seeng some pcre lib issues) worked ...etc. yeah, I'd use it.  I really like kde, and that would open the door for brining in some of kdes very cool built in stuff.  and then we can all worry about getting koffice working

[hbo]

How many people here would use KDE if i were to 'tune' it for pdaXrom?
ie. battery, suspend, wifi, etc..
proper menus, slim it down...
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Good luck with the last one!

If you can substantially slim it down, I might consider it for a day-to-day environment. For now, I see those libraries as a way to port stuff from KDE that I can't get anywhere else. I' m thinking of KNX, in particular. For me, having that running would be worth dedicating most of the PDA's resources.

But maybe the Linux PDA fairy in Japan will send me a way to put 256MB of RAM on my Z, without choking the battery.

Good luck with the last one!

[adf]

I dunno..with swapd running kde isn't too terribly bad now.

8 was thinking of keeping fluxbox as a backup.... when the z might function more as a pim than laptop.  The default wm is probably the best default, but full kde has so many possibilities

[Chero]

I would really like to use it.

But it would need a battery monitor (maybe it has, and i haven't found it)
My main problem is that i can't use suspend/resume. The system doesn't seem to function any more after this.
Am i the only one that has this problem ?
I ran kde-apps (e.g. Kbudget) on pocketworkstation (rc9.1) and had the same problem.
 

chero

[ScottYelich]

I need... er... um... would really like to have...

X win, firefox, emacs and gcc ... at the same time.

Why?  Well, X win because I am doing graphics programming, unless there is an SDL vnc viewer and I can view a vncserver from console with sdl vnc client... emacs because I am editing code and I'd rather slit my wrists than vi code... although, I could probably  get away with uEmacs (if they just would fix the d@mn search and replace.... gcc, er, really g++ (I lied) .. because I'm doing Qt w/ c++ (no, not python or perl)... and lastly, a browser, so I can see pages, API and google when I'm stuck and slashdot when I'm needing a quick humor^H^H^H^H^H break.

I do ok, until it comes to the g++ part.  If I kill the browser, then I'm ok.... I guess I could run swap, as I don't need to go back and forth... plus, the idea with the pda is that it's not my primary so I don't need speed -- and most of when I would do more work is when I'm not able to use firefox anyway (ie: remote, plane, subay/train).


Overall, the PDA provides just about everything I need.  I certainly don't need or want full KDE on *this* device.  In fact, XFCE4 seems to be very nice and it has some pretty controls, etc.  

I'm not really sure what the "cached" means when it comes to memory on this device.  I always seem to have like 53MB cached or something high... but then I can run a ton of programs and not run out of memory.  Is there any tool that gives you a clear breakdown of memory and what is left?  For instance, do those little applets for the bar at the bottom really each take of 1.2MB?  running 6-8 of them seems like a total waste!

Remember, with a 760/860 -- you can "fast load" every single app that the device comes with(out of the box) ... with the 64MB ram.  That's pretty damn nice, if you're into fast response and PDA type stuff.

Anyway, I just don't see a real win by bogging down a light-weight system with a full-blown desktop suite.

... just my opinion and needs.

Here's what's more important to me -- instead of KDE -- how about running win95 with reasonable speed?  (ya, mostly for games)

Scott

[ninjafoo]

How many people here would use KDE if i were to 'tune' it for pdaXrom?
ie. battery, suspend, wifi, etc..
proper menus, slim it down...

does anyone care?
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Gets my vote

[ThirtyOne]

hbo -

Why kNX?

I am the maintainer of nxrun - an open source NX client that does not rely on any kde code.

It is lightweight and perfect for the Z.  It is part of the FreeNX project.

kNX is currently unsupported, and we plan to eventually integrate my code into it anyhow.  kNX does not support 1.4.0 encrypted sessions and has not been touched in a year.

The source for nxrun is available in cvs here: http://freenx.berlios.de/

Anyone who can get this compiled for pdaXrom I will gladly help in any way.  I have not got a compile environment for pdaXrom working yet.

Obviously, this depends on having the open source NX components compiled as well.

[adf]

fantastc!  just cheerleeding, I haven't got a dev setup yet either, but this great news fo me

[HardenCoonor]

One way to tune kde is probably to use a similar approach as gentoo with it's split ebuilds for kdebase and other packages. kdelibs maybe can be downsized with disabling several components (DO_NOT_COMPILE).

While you are at it, leave konqueror out and include krusader. Drop xmms and include amarok(yes, i know, it's not christmas time, but anyway)

I, personally would very like to see kde 3.4(.1) on a zaurus, since it is the DE of my choice on my gentoo-box. Tuning it would be therefor appreciated. Right now i have oz/opie 3.5.3 on my c860, but since i cannot use it as a card reader is quite a bit annoying. So switching back to pdaXrom is on my mind right now.

[adf]

hmmm. I can see krusader v. konqueror as a file browser, but would there be any gain keeping it (konqueror--maybe faster than firefox when running kde?) as a web browser?

[mars]

Question for someone who has installed KDE: How do KDE applications perform when KDE isn't used as the desktop? Specifically, I would like to see if something like Kate runs well from the regular pdaXrom window manager. Kate should be part of the kdebase package.

Edit: I went ahead and installed kdebase, etc. Kate runs surprisingly well from within the default window manager. After the first time it is run, start up seems to be somewhat less than 55 sec.

[HardenCoonor]

hmmm. I can see krusader v. konqueror as a file browser, but would there be any gain keeping it (konqueror--maybe faster than firefox when running kde?) as a web browser?

Now that you mention it, when thinking about it it would be better to include only konqueror, and use it as the main browser. So no need to include krusader, i also have seen konqueror on opie running with 2 windows.

Still, the kdebase-package with it's 26 MB is way too big for the little rom of the zaurii. Certain apps and/or infrastructure is not needed there.

Finally we may end up with pdaxrom either split up into one kde-edition, mb/xfce and others, or pdaxrom should in general provide only  base packages, leaving all internet/ office/Multimedia up to the user, which would get my vote here.