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« Reply #75 on: October 14, 2005, 07:23:57 pm »
I didn't know that...I've only had Linux PDA's.  I guess might have to switch.  :-)  I think the app on the Simpad is called "Transcriber";  works very well.

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« Reply #76 on: October 15, 2005, 12:16:30 am »
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I didn't know that...I've only had Linux PDA's.  I guess might have to switch.  :-)  I think the app on the Simpad is called "Transcriber";  works very well.

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So does qtopia 2.1. I don't know about opie.
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« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2005, 04:51:01 am »
Handwriting Recognition is done with a closed source library on Qtopia 2. The Opie team is much too small to even attempt recreating this.
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« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2005, 05:44:12 am »
What about the handwriting recognition library in the Nokia? Is that Open Source software?
Cause if it is, then the people at handhelds.org, openzaurus, and more could reimplement it.That would be a nice boost for them.

http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/m..._maemo_arch.gif

[img]http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/misc/nokia_770_internet_tablet_maemo_arch.gif\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]

That chart shows the amount of Open Source software used in the N770.I'd bet that the Hadwriting part is inside the blue part.

Anyways, just how powerfull is this device (In theory)? Ok, 200 MHZ CPU, but, in the old days, StrongARM 206 MHz CPU had quite the same performance with a XScale 250 at 400 MHZ.And the DSP.What's that supposed to do?

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« Reply #79 on: October 15, 2005, 05:46:44 am »
Holy! The image has been hacked! They're HERE!

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« Reply #80 on: October 15, 2005, 06:49:32 am »
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There are two things that puzzle me about this device, one software and the other hardware. On the software side why did Nokia avoid QT, especially since Trolltech is also a Norwegian company.  Could it have been cost issues, or being that this is a multimedia device were there performance issues with QT.
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« Reply #81 on: October 15, 2005, 11:43:13 am »
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There are two things that puzzle me about this device, one software and the other hardware. On the software side why did Nokia avoid QT, especially since Trolltech is also a Norwegian company.  Could it have been cost issues, or being that this is a multimedia device were there performance issues with QT.
QT is FOSS, Qtopia isn't.
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And Nokia is Finnish instead of Norwegian
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« Reply #82 on: October 15, 2005, 05:36:19 pm »
little bit offtopic
but what do you think
is this a masterpiece?
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« Reply #83 on: October 16, 2005, 08:34:56 am »
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what do you think is this a masterpiece? Nokia's new E61
Nokia  - Nokia E61 Smartphone
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hmm, "hires screen" ===>>> 320x240.
 what century are Nokia living in?

the new SonyEricsson P990 also looks neat and well integrated... but for me an HTC universal still has the hardware specification to make me drool!
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« Reply #84 on: October 16, 2005, 12:09:49 pm »
speculatrix: QVGA is hires in symbian and MS smartphones (which usually have ~170x200 displays)
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« Reply #85 on: October 21, 2005, 08:12:11 am »
NEWS FLASH!  

Many of the developer 770s have been sent out and people have been posting some feedback:

Check Here, Here and, Here.

Also, a short video of usage has popped up, in AVI and MPEG.Both are the same, just a different format.

Nothing much, but....

Also, pricing and availability (But no dates) have been announced.
Check Here for more information.

That's all for today!  

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« Reply #86 on: October 21, 2005, 08:39:53 am »
Here's some more feedback and (p)reviews or whatever:

First Impressions,
A nice little preview from random(type)®,

and,

Developer's First Thoughts on the Nokia 770 - Part I and Part II

For anything more, check planet.maemo.org

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« Reply #87 on: October 22, 2005, 06:26:14 am »
Hey Koen,

Now that you've got yours could you do some benchmarking for comparison purposes please?

I'd be interested in video (as in watching them) performance. Anyone here have a useful idea/method of producing a benchmark and a link to a video which can be used?

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« Reply #88 on: October 22, 2005, 07:15:35 am »
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Hey Koen,

Now that you've got yours could you do some benchmarking for comparison purposes please?

I'd be interested in video (as in watching them) performance. Anyone here have a useful idea/method of producing a benchmark and a link to a video which can be used?

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The Ice Age 2 trailer ( [a href=\"http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/IceAge2_trailer.avi]http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/IceAge2_trailer.avi[/url] (8MB)) plays fullscreen without skipping. According to mplayer it's a 472.8kbps 352x208 15.0 fps Xvid movie.
According to Nokia devs you'll hit the limit of the crappy OMAP 1710 videochip very easy (no, poking directly at the framebuffer doesn't help. X is slightly accelerated on the 770).
But for a 220MHz cpu it's surprisingly fast in use.
I had wifi and gprs set up within a minute, installing scummvm, osso-xterm and gpe-pim took another 60 seconds.
See http://planet.maemo.org for more opinions on the device.
It's great, and a 770 + bluetooth keyboard (http://770.fs-security.com/keyboards.html) is a lot cheaper than a clamshell.

Take a look at http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog to see what apps the community has ported to the 770.
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« Reply #89 on: October 22, 2005, 01:28:23 pm »
Thanks koen.

That video's not the greatest quality - it looks a bit fuzzy playing it back on my PC, but it is better quality than the lost episode I was trying to watch the other day on my C750 with varying degrees of success (lots of dropped frames & sound sync issues).

Perhaps someone with more experience of video on Zaurus could comment on whether this video would be playable on a Zaurus (to get an idea of the comparitive abilities)?

From my reading of this: http://www.internettablettalk.com/content/view/120/2/, and the links, usb host is available. If this is the case, a powered usb keyboard might be a cheaper option than the BT ones (which all look pretty expensive in the UK).

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