Ok, Kde Works; What About Gnome?

[Chero]

Chero, another usefull note: what about stripping the executables? Imagine Xfce4 even lighter...
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I think I stripped everything (libs and executables) - I'll double check this.
Before stripping, the libs and executables were about 29Mb more than they are now.
I could leave out all the locales and some themes to make it lighter.
Or put these in seperate packages, when I find the time.
I'd really like the panel-battery-plugin, so my first efforts go into this and it looks like I won't have a lot of time to do so in the first week. (right now I should be sleeping instead of writing this, but I slept a lot when I was a baby, so ...)

About the matchbox-applets : I think that, using the session manager, there is no other way than the one you're trying. I think you can only load them after loading the taskbar, which is loaded or not-loaded according to the chosen session. (correct me if i'm wrong here)

Chero

[andrewwoods]

This looks very good, but I can't quite make it work.

I have copied all the contents of /data - /data3 to /usr etc and run ldconfig.

I cannot get the menu to appear, even after following the hide options described above.

Also, when I run an app other than aterm I get an error "Failed to excecute child process XXX (no such file or directory).

Any ideas?

Thanks Andrew

[scoutme]

chero: me dumb... I should have imagined everything was already stripped... so less space than debian packages

andrew: my hint - after you got the hide stuff, do not close xfce4 and try to launch thr panel within the aterm, don't forget the & after the executable, to mantain usable (and ctrlDable) the terminal. If you get it up and running, ctrl+D the aterm and close xfce4 through the panel/menu button. Check the save session option before exiting. Now retry startxfce4 to see if panel loads correctly.

[ScottYelich]

This is great news... I've been wanting to use XFCE4 on the Z for quite some time.
I use it in my VNC sessions since it's nice and light-weight, yet it is still featureful.

mirrored to:  http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/

Scott

[igorekk]

Where i can download latest xfce for my Z?

[Chero]

@ Scott :
Thanks for mirroring.
The files will likely change within a day or ten, to make installing easier.

@ Andrew :
You obviously didn't install the latest ipk-s. The data-dirs should be finally out of the ipk-s.
After installing (and putting all the stuff in the right place if you use older ipk-s) you should have a couple of extra icons on the "other"-tab of matchbox (at least, I have them). You can run the menu-config, session-config, ... using these icons.
If you don't have the icons, try leaving matchbox and then "startx" again.
 
Chero.

[andrewwoods]

"You obviously didn't install the latest ipk-s"

You're right - I downloaded the second set of three, not the new set of two. I missed the edit of the original post on page 3. My fault. Sorry.

So now I have downloaded the new set of 2 ipkgs and they installed OK.

When I run startxfce4 and select the Default session I get just an aterm with no panels etc. I can run xfce4-menueditor, but I can't exit and save a session and get any panels to appear.

@Scoutme: Not sure quite what you meant by "launch the panel within the aterm". What panel? What is the command line to launch a panel?

Sorry for needing help with what should be Very Easy Stuff.

Thanks

[Chero]

"You obviously didn't install the latest ipk-s"

You're right - I downloaded the second set of three, not the new set of two. I missed the edit of the original post on page 3. My fault. Sorry.

So now I have downloaded the new set of 2 ipkgs and they installed OK.

When I run startxfce4 and select the Default session I get just an aterm with no panels etc. I can run xfce4-menueditor, but I can't exit and save a session and get any panels to appear.

@Scoutme: Not sure quite what you meant by "launch the panel within the aterm". What panel? What is the command line to launch a panel?

Sorry for needing help with what should be Very Easy Stuff.

Thanks
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to launch the panel :
from the aterm
# xfce4-panel &      

then the panel should appear.
on the panel you have a shutdown button.

to launch a taskbar :
from the aterm
# xftaskbar4 &      

good luck,
Chero.

[andrewwoods]

Ok, tried that.

I now get this error when I try to run xfce4-panel.

** (xfce4-panel:998): WARNING **: module /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/libbattmon.so cannot be opened: GModule initialization check failed: Incompatible plugin version

(xfce4-panel:998): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkEventBox, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkEventBox can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkImage

(xfce4-panel:998): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkEventBox, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkEventBox can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkImage

The panel pops up and disappears.
Any ideas?

[ScottYelich]

Just let me know where files are -- and as long as they're not illegal -- I'll be happy to host them.

Scott

[Chero]

Ok, tried that.

I now get this error when I try to run xfce4-panel.

** (xfce4-panel:998): WARNING **: module /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/libbattmon.so cannot be opened: GModule initialization check failed: Incompatible plugin version

(xfce4-panel:998): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkEventBox, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkEventBox can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkImage

(xfce4-panel:998): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkEventBox, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkEventBox can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkImage

The panel pops up and disappears.
Any ideas?
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The error is normal in the current status of this version (I was working on the battery plugin, but realised it will take some time to finish it, so I created this ipk-s of xfce4 without finishing the battery plugin)

So, I don't know why the panel disappears.

Have you tried creating a new session ?
(When I create a new session, I get the desktop, the panel and the taskbar.)

You can also check if the panel isn't "autohide".
from an aterm:
# xfce-setting-show
then click on the panel settings icon.

Chero

[andrewwoods]

I am struggling to get this to work. Could somebody who has this working post their .config files please?

Thanks
Andrew

[Chero]

I am struggling to get this to work. Could somebody who has this working post their .config files please?

Thanks
Andrew
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Have you tried removing .cache and .config from your home-dir
Maybe the ones I included are marked as a running session, preventing you to start another session.

Chero.

[andrewwoods]

Hey hey - we're there.

I took Chero's advice & deleted the .cache and .config that were created in the ipkgs and then I was able to create a new session.

Then I deleted them again and copied the .config that Chero posted and it worked straight away.

So, after installing, delete .cache from your home directory.

[Chero]

Now we know it actually works, I have a few questions :

What should we add, what don't we need :
- xfcalendar
- xfce4 appfinder
- xfce4 icon theme
- xfce4 mixer
- xfce4 systray
- xfce4 toys
- xfce4-trigger (have to check, I think it's already in it)
- xffm
- xfprint
- xwm4 themes

- xfce4-notes-plugin (already compiled)
- xfce4-iconbox (already compiled)
- xfce4-battery-plugin (working on it)

Which of the plugins on this page are interesting enough to add ?

Any other suggestions ?
(I know it has to be split up in seperate ipkgs, but let's first get all usefull things working)

Chero.