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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2005, 08:10:15 am »
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Can it cope with full apps quickly?

what do you mean? it takes 20-30 seconds to open firefox if this is the kind of response you need.

That's great to know

Are apps easy to install? Do they use up all the space fast?

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Any issues with key mappings?

like what? Nothing that prevent you to type...

Can you map the japanese keys to things, can you map the quick start buttons to things? Can you change keys around or add currency symbols easily through key combinations?
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2005, 08:23:16 am »
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Are apps easy to install? Do they use up all the space fast?

like the other distributions, it uses ipk (with or without gui) and feeds.
You will run into trouble with a fat formated card (ie need ext2 formated card, a image file or umsdos)

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Do they use up all the space fast?
Well it depends, you might feel a bit restricted without a card. But even with a small card (128 m) you can install a good number of application

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Can you map the japanese keys to things

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Can you change keys around or add currency symbols easily through key combinations?
if you know how to edit a file and a bit about xmodmap yes it's easy. There is no gui for this.

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can you map the quick start buttons to things?
yes, there is a gui for this. but I'm not sure how well it works for models != Sl-C700 - 860
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2005, 10:13:10 am »
So if you were recommending that someone use pdaXrom you'd recommend a sizeable SD card, how big for instance?

Would people say that they prefer having a more linux mini laptop experience with their Z than little cool toy experience?
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2005, 10:30:40 am »
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Would people say that they prefer having a more linux mini laptop experience with their Z than little cool toy experience?

Depends entirely on the way you use your Z.  For me, pdaXrom turns my Zs into cool toys.  When I want to really use any of them, I reflash to a Qtopia-based ROM (Cacko when I can get it).  It gives me quick, easy access to all my network tools and saved documents.  Your mileage may vary.    

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2005, 10:37:50 am »
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For me, pdaXrom turns my Zs into cool toys.

Would be nice to know what you mean :-)
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2005, 11:50:33 am »
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For me, pdaXrom turns my Zs into cool toys.

Would be nice to know what you mean :-)
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I use my Zs at work and at home.  Work is where I get the most use, carrying every document I need, lists of equipment and settings, etc.  Qtopia allows me to rapidly find an open a document with one hand rather than forcing me to use a stylus.  I can remotely connect to several of my servers/routers using SSH/VNC/qtrdesktop, etc.  PdaXrom has all the same tools, it's just less convenient for me.

PdaXrom is more fun, looks cool and always draws a crowd when I'm showing it off, but I get more use out of Qtopia.  If I could run a full Qtopia on top of pdaXrom, I would do it in a heartbeat regardless of its speed.

How you use your Z and your personal preferences will make all the difference.  That's why so many people are telling you to see for yourself.

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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2005, 06:03:24 am »
I'd definitely like to, when a stable pdaXrom for the C1000 is ready.

Is it possible to install pdaXrom onto an SD card and keep your qtopia sharp rom on the internal flash and choose between which you boot and it stays in that rom until your next reboot and rom choose?
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2005, 02:01:51 pm »
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I'd definitely like to, when a stable pdaXrom for the C1000 is ready.

Is it possible to install pdaXrom onto an SD card and keep your qtopia sharp rom on the internal flash and choose between which you boot and it stays in that rom until your next reboot and rom choose?
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It sure is possible. All you need to do is "rip" a pdaXrom ie: copy the content into an
image file or directly onto your SD card.

If pdaXrom and your installed ROM both use the same kernel (which I dunno), you are set. If not, it can become rather complicated  

Then you'd need a boot-manager for your device to choose what to boot.
I dunno if rboot works with the C1000 and altboot has not yet been tested on this
device. Chances are good that they'll work though as the Akita ships w/ a 2.4 series kernel.

So in short: Is it possible? Yes. Can it be done w/o much work involved? I don't think so.
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2005, 09:44:31 pm »
yeah, I was able to run pdaXrom off a disk image using chroot on the c3000. even managed to get some X apps running but there is more work required to get everything running smoothly.
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2005, 07:00:21 am »
It all sounds terribly promising and exciting though!
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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2005, 08:50:23 am »
I'm looking forward to pdaXrom on the zaurus, would be awesome to have a fully fledged mini laptop!

How large an SD card would be recommended?

Any idea when pdaXrom will be available stably on the c1000?

I'm currently using the default sharp rom, will that allow a dual boot?
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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2005, 12:40:21 pm »
BTW, have you checked pocketworkstation ?
It might help you some way...
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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2005, 08:24:23 am »
What advantages are there to having Debian on the zaurus instead of pdaXrom? I would have thought pdaXrom would have seemed more tailored to the platform, no?
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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2005, 04:59:43 am »
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What advantages are there to having Debian on the zaurus instead of pdaXrom? I would have thought pdaXrom would have seemed more tailored to the platform, no?
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Debian is..bigger.  more apps "out of the box" --big stable distro, etc.
Having run both I can say that debian using vnc as it is setup is pretty cool. pdax is definitely more tailored, though.  as usual, depends what you're up to
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2005, 05:10:13 am »
Am up for:

ease of installation - complex things confuse me way too easily, if I get frustrated and have to spent too long problem solving, I tend to lose interest.

ease of use - same reason

the apps which I need - MySQL, Apache, PHP, HTML editor (with syntax hi-lighting), word processor, spreadsheet, some decent PIM.
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