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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2004, 06:56:55 pm »
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it\'s ridiculous to complain about a product provided, for free, by a community of volunteers.

Exactly.

That being said, I\'d define casual user as someone who uses the Z but doesn\'t hack or develop, and to that type of user anything that doesn\'t perform seamlessly and flawlessly is basically worthless.

Like Windows?  :wink:

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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2004, 07:30:08 pm »
can oz rotate the c7x0 screen automatically when you flip from palmtop to clamshell mode?? or do you have to run the rotate app like the preclamshell devices?

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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2004, 04:56:40 am »
That feature already works in Opie HEAD - you have to compile it yourself though, \'cause we aren\'t building packages until we\'re out of build system migration mode.
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2004, 07:50:01 pm »
The Lycoris/pocketpc page is back up. It looks like release is pushed back to second quarter of 2004.

http://www.lycoris.com/products/pocketpc/index.php

Since I am not an Opie/OpenZ user, I cannot tell for sure, but is Lycoris based on it? The screenshots look similar... or is that \"familiar?\"
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2004, 12:08:39 am »
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it\'s ridiculous to complain about a product provided, for free, by a community of volunteers.

Exactly.

That being said, I\'d define casual user as someone who uses the Z but doesn\'t hack or develop, and to that type of user anything that doesn\'t perform seamlessly and flawlessly is basically worthless.

I neither hack nor develop, but I do possess at least part of a clue stick. After reading the readme and replacing the hotplug app I have zero problems with 3.3.5/6.

I\'m not sure that this qualifes as worthless

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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2004, 12:39:44 am »
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After reading the readme and replacing the hotplug app I have zero problems with 3.3.5/6.

Translation:  At first, it didn\'t work.  After performing the proper hack as indicated in the readme file, 3.3.5/6 works.

To clarify:  In order for the majority of users to like it, it needs to work correctly when it first boots after flashing.  If it doesn\'t, it will be useless to them.

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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2004, 01:56:07 am »
I would be interesting in knowing what connection Lycoris has with OZ/OPIE.  To me it sounds like they are trying to realize commercial gains from open source community work.  Is this case?  Does anyone know what their contribution would be back to OZ/OPIE, if any?
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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2004, 03:24:55 am »
sriley, I think you are grossly under-estimating the average Z user.  If we were talking about a PPC or Palm I would totaly agree with you, but I think very few of the people here are so stupid/ignorant/lazy that they would find a fantastic rom that kicks the krap out of basiacly every other rom (X11 on the CXXX series excepted) just because they have to actualy read the directions to make it work.

We\'re not talking about complicated uber-user hacks to get it working, just a few simple adjustments to the norm.

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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2004, 04:23:26 am »
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sriley, I think you are grossly under-estimating the average Z user.

Possibly.  I doubt that most of the vocal Z users are really average at all, especially relative to all PDA/handheld users.

Reading the OSS handheld post on Slashdot makes me think that the average user probably sold his Z on Ebay within a week of purchasing it due to some trivial synch issue, and that only those of us who like to screw with things kept them.

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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2004, 07:08:27 am »
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After reading the readme and replacing the hotplug app I have zero problems with 3.3.5/6.

What readme are you talking about?  the only readme I could find in any of the 860 direcetories is at http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experim...860/3.3.6-pre1/ and it doesn\'t describe any \"hack\" required.

I would love to try OZ, but I have never gotten any applications to run on it. (I\'ve posted in the past but nothing suggested would work - apps would install but fail on startup).  I\'ve tried 3.3.5 and 3.3.6pre several times, but no go.

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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2004, 07:09:41 am »
Whoops, that last post was me - gotta re-login after a few days of no posts I guess.

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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2004, 11:14:40 am »
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it\'s ridiculous to complain about a product provided, for free, by a community of volunteers.

Exactly.


Excuse me?  What about it being free and made by a community of volunteers makes it excempt from criticism?  That\'s like politicians demanding that they be excempt from criticism because their intentions were good...

This brings me back to the \"What\'s the attraction?\" thread...  I feel the same way as the original poster of that thread-- especially when those of that community propose OpenZaurus as the be-all-end-all fix every time someone posts about a problem with their Sharp ROM Zaurus...

Sorry about being a come-out-of-the-shadows stalker, (although I posted quite a bit on DevNet) but this kind of elitist attitude that many open source/free/community projects have about themselves really grates on me...

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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2004, 11:41:04 am »
Critisism is fine but it must be constructive. Moaning about things is not fine; if I\'ve paid for something then I feel entitled to moan about it if it doesn\'t do what I want, but if I\'ve downloaded it for free then the story is different. If people have a problem then please bring it to the attention of the developers (and those like me who try to help out) and in the fullness of time it will be addressed (because of a lack of people and the difficulty of re-creating problems too).

Saiten\'s original issue was why people always suggest OZ as an alternative to problems with the Sharp ROM. Basically because OZ has been developed and has addressed the orginal issues which Qtopia had. This is not to say that it\'s perfect, but it is developing. This brings me on to his second point about there never being a final, finished, polished stable version. This is true and it is an issue. I personally think that to get more people on board OZ (and Qtopia to tell the truth) should become more polished (though whether these people would contribute to the coding and general development is questionable), but if I could get developing I would probably be more inclined to develop new things as they are more interesting to me now. It\'s a catch 22, I can\'t really remember what I found difficult when I started using OZ so can\'t really know what I ought to try and make more polished. This is where constructive critisism comes in.

 
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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2004, 11:45:47 am »
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Sorry about being a come-out-of-the-shadows stalker, (although I posted quite a bit on DevNet) but this kind of elitist attitude that many open source/free/community projects have about themselves really grates on me...

Don\'t worry, I know how you feel, though I may be suffering from a lack of patience (which I always criticise). I would like to start doing kernel development but can\'t grab the source as I\'m using Windows, filename problems due to the lack of case-sensitivity etc. I don\'t seem to get much joy from the mailing list (either on where the current stuf is or on how to skirt my troubles) - they probably think I\'m a time-wasting idiot, or perhaps people just don\'t know, it\'s always difficult to tell.

Thankfully I am at least reasonably motivated and so have gone to the trouble of obtaining a Linux box to install at uni so I can get the source code. Generally a pain in the arse, but still I try.


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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2004, 12:39:07 pm »
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Excuse me?  What about it being free and made by a community of volunteers makes it excempt from criticism?

Constructive criticism and complaining are two different things.  For those of us who aren\'t developers and can\'t offer code or solutions, acknowledging the huge effort of the OZ team is the only way we can distinguish between the two when reporting issues.

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That\'s like politicians demanding that they be excempt from criticism because their intentions were good...

No, it isn\'t.  Politicians are paid employees with huge perks with subsequent benefits and high-level social clout.  Nice try, though.