Author Topic: Kde 3.5 (Read 70843 times)

ant · « **Reply #30 on:** January 03, 2006, 02:42:26 pm »

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Same here. I flashed 1.1.0 with 121MB root partition.
Ant, could you tell me if there's any trick to make Konqueror run faster? Thanks!

Found another issue:
The last line, umount /use/lib/kde/bin/startkde , in startkde fails to execute. Upon logging out a KDE session and returning to the console, it reads device is busy and so /use/lib/kde/kde3.5 cannot be umounted. Need to umount manually. If not then it will be mounted multiple times.
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Let me back home in an hour or so...
I remember I installed bluetooth libs, hostapd and wpa-supplicant.
Then I read your posts and installed pcre and libqui, then created a swapfile.
Just this...nothing special.

Oh, YES, there is the issue with the squashfs: workaround is to mount the partitions by hand and then the symlink to startkde works.
Me too I created the symlink: ln -sf /usr/lib/kde/bin/startkde /home/root/.xinitrc, this way after the mount I simply type startx.
I'll create a script and post it later on.

In the meanwhile I guess ShiroiKuma is already working on the issue...and posting a new how-to!

Thanks Shiroi-Guy!

Ant

ZDevil · « **Reply #31 on:** January 03, 2006, 04:19:25 pm »

I tried this and Fn seems to kinda work in KDE.

I copy this from the .xinitrc created by matchbox to startkde, directly under the mount line and before all the KDE startup stuff: (well of course only the lines for corgi.xmodmap matters here but I'm just doing it in a sloppy way)

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#!/bin/sh
mount -t squashfs - o loop /usr/lib/kde/kde_3.5.0_stripped.squashfs /usr/lib/kde/kde3.5
case "$MODEL" in
 Â  SL-C860|SL-C760|SL-C750|SL-7500|SL-C700) 
test -f /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap
;;
 Â  SL-6000)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/tosa.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/tosa.xmodmap
;;
 Â  SL-C1000|SL-C3000|SL-C3100)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap
;;
 Â  *)
cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'Sharp-Collie' 2>/dev/null >/dev/null && test -f /etc/X11/kb/collie.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/collie.xmodmap
;;
esac

test -f /etc/X11/kb/userdefined.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/userdefined.xmodmap

#
# DEFAULT KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( KDE-3.5 )
...
...

So the reason for the previouly Fn-key-not-working issue seems to be that xmodmap, including the userdefined.xmodmap, is not (properly) referenced to in the original startkde. Maybe I am just wrong here.

Anyways now I regain control of the Fn key and it can type all the 'blue' chars such as underscore, although zooming and backlight (Fn+1-4) are not working (or perhaps will not?).

ZDevil · « **Reply #32 on:** January 04, 2006, 04:15:28 am »

A few more things:

-- Xpad is a very good replacement of KNotes.
The original KNotes is running not fast enough. Then I use Xpad, which runs much faster and eats less memory than KNotes, and it can even be automatically docked to the panel as an applet along with clipboard. Double click/tap it will open a new sticky note, which comes very handy.

-- The PIM apps as separate packages?
I wonder if the road can go further down by stripping away the KDE pim stuff (KOrganizer, Kontact, etc) as separate packages, because they are too slow and resource-hungry to be usable on Z. Also they take up no small space in the image, i guess?

-- App icons on cards?
Apps installed on my SD lost their icons in the paths. And the Menu Editor doesn't accept icons from external media.

So far my impression: indeed KDE3.5 is pretty heavy on Z, even though it is now installed to the internal memory. But I believe there are some ways to fine-tune it (e.g. further strip down things) to make it more usable and less demanding on Z.

By the way, is there anyone also trying/testing/using it here?

ant · « **Reply #33 on:** January 04, 2006, 05:02:58 am »

Yes it is indeed heavy.
I'm sed to report that after some use Konqueror loads now slower, in 40 seconds approx.

Stability of the KDE interface is very good, and the eye-candies are there!

I have some glitches after resuming from suspend (I have to resume 3 times, doesn't wake up well on first try!). Should try with mb-applet.

BTW I couldn't find anything Bluetooth-related in the Shiroi image AND in the KDE from the feed.

Stripped out?

ZDevil · « **Reply #34 on:** January 04, 2006, 05:36:40 am »

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Hello,

This is exciting!

Does anyone else run out of installable memory on a C1000 to the point where they can't install anything after they've copied the squashfs file?

Knowing me, I'm doing something simple, wrong.Â
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Yes, it's one of biggest moments ever in my pdaX experience.
I flashed 1.1.0 Beta, and then set up KDE3.5 immediately before installing any other apps. After this there remains about 12MB (forgot exactly how much) in the internal memory.
I'm sure we can have a lot more space if we can do without the PIM apps...

ZDevil · « **Reply #35 on:** January 04, 2006, 08:50:19 am »

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I have some glitches after resuming from suspend (I have to resume 3 times, doesn't wake up well on first try!). Should try with mb-applet.
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Yes, I begin to experience the same issue. Resuming sometimes fails and it goes to sleep very quickly. The workaround is to tap on some icons fast enough before it gets dark again ... This is more obvious with AC plugged in. I can verify now that it is an issue with KDE, not 1.1.0 Beta, as this doesn't happen in matchbox.

TheWalt · « **Reply #36 on:** January 04, 2006, 11:08:54 pm »

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Yes, it's one of biggest moments ever in my pdaX experience.

Ditto... I did pretty much the same (finally) on my new SL-C3100. Put pdaxrom on, repartitioned the HD (and setup swap), and installed KDE 3.5

Error free, looks great, and I had to show everyone at work. Problem is each time I clicked on anything I had to say "wait... wait... hold on..." and shorlty realized this is just too heavy for my little pda to handle.

Totally awesome that it works, but the realistic performance is a very big dissapointment, esp since I upgraded to the SL-C3100 just to do this.

ZDevil · « **Reply #37 on:** January 05, 2006, 02:16:46 am »

Walt, do you use the packages or the squashfs image?
I'm also curious to know how fast is it running in hdd in your C3100, e.g. desktop startup, konqueror, korganizer, etc? Thanks!

P.S.
Actually what I wanted to say is: Yes, it's one of "biggest" moments ever in my pdaX experience.

ZDevil · « **Reply #38 on:** January 05, 2006, 03:38:30 am »

Yet another question:

How to map the applications keys? It seems running inputsetup.py in KDE does not take any effect. Thanks!

ZDevil · « **Reply #39 on:** January 05, 2006, 03:50:22 am »

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Yet another question:
How to map the applications keys?Â It seems running inputsetup.py in KDE does not take any effect.Â Thanks!
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Sorry... this happens again! I forgot how many times I got a blink right after asking a stupid question.

Go to Control Center > Regional and Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts > Command Shortcuts (in the right pane), select the application you want to assign a key to, and then click the 'custom' bullet. When done, press 'Apply' to save your settings.

TheWalt · « **Reply #40 on:** January 05, 2006, 09:28:38 am »

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Walt, do you use the packages or the squashfs image?Â
I'm also curious to know how fast is it running in hdd in your C3100, e.g. desktop startup, konqueror, korganizer, etc?Â Thanks!

I installed from the packages... actually just the base, lib, and pim. 128meg swap partition enabled as well on hdd.

Desktop Startup : 1 minute 50 seconds (after waiting for ipkg to finish up because that takes forever)

Konqueror : 50 seconds (including default Conquer your desktop! page load)
Konqueror 2nd : 22 seconds (including default Conquer your desktop! page load)

Konsole : 10 seconds

Konqueror 3rd : 30 seconds (including default Conquer your desktop! page load)

I need to add some lib to get korganizer working and will up date this post with those times later tonight.

UPDATE:

Korganizer : 55 seconds

Abiword : 30 seconds

Kmail : 50 seconds

ZDevil · « **Reply #41 on:** January 05, 2006, 09:40:25 am »

So it seems our results are very close.
I just use mrxvt instead of Konsole for it runs a hell lot faster, plus the multi-tabs.
Still hoping for separating the KDE PIM stuff from the rest. Way too heavy for Z.
Perhaps a 'KDE Lite' isn't really a bad idea, is it?

Chero · « **Reply #42 on:** January 05, 2006, 11:56:17 am »

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Walt, do you use the packages or the squashfs image?
I'm also curious to know how fast is it running in hdd in your C3100, e.g. desktop startup, konqueror, korganizer, etc? Thanks!

I installed from the packages... actually just the base, lib, and pim. 128meg swap partition enabled as well on hdd.

Desktop Startup : 1 minute 50 seconds (after waiting for ipkg to finish up because that takes forever)

Konqueror : 50 seconds (including default Conquer your desktop! page load)
Konqueror 2nd : 22 seconds (including default Conquer your desktop! page load)

Konsole : 10 seconds

Konqueror 3rd : 30 seconds (including default Conquer your desktop! page load)

I need to add some lib to get korganizer working and will up date this post with those times later tonight.

UPDATE:

Korganizer : 55 seconds

Abiword : 30 seconds

Kmail : 50 seconds
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And for me the same .
(installed on hdd - 64Mb swap)

BTW : why so much fuss about load-time. I leave the apps I need open and just suspend.

I agree it's a bit heavy for a little Z, but it works !!
For daily use I'll stick to xfce, but next time I go to a meeting of the local linux-user-group, I'll start kde and some apps before I leave home, then suspend, and resume at the meeting to show off. Let's just hope nothing freezes.

Have fun,
Chero.

ShiroiKuma · « **Reply #43 on:** January 05, 2006, 12:07:36 pm »

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BTW : why so much fuss about load-time. I leave the apps I need open and just suspend.
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Yeah, that's what I do too. Basically, I have 6 desktops on KDE, divided thematically into what I use - language study, pim, konsole, etc. and it works fine while up and running. Starting KDE itself, or Firefox is a drag, but once up it works.

I use a 512 meg swap on a CF, with it it works fine.

The only problem I had was the time synchronization bug on suspend and resume, which I've taken care of as [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14655&hl=hwclock]described here[/url].

Zdevil, I think this might also be the case for your crashes on resume that you mention. I've never had such a crash with KDE, but have had the time-lag problem. Now it's gone.

ShiroiKuma · « **Reply #44 on:** January 05, 2006, 12:50:34 pm »

Anybody else having problems with kaddressbook? It seems that when there are no contacts, i.e. I delete the vcf file, it loads fine and runs. When I enter even one contact though, then save, close, and restart, it loads the main stcreen, shows no contacts and gets stuck forever, as if running something in the background.

If you switch to another app and then come back you only see a white window.

What's the problem here?

News:

Author Topic: Kde 3.5 (Read 70843 times)