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« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2006, 04:01:08 pm »
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So far I've found that a bit customizing in Desktop Setting Wizard and Control Center does help improve the overall performance.   
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Good news: Further playing with these options now reclaim more than 10MB free RAM free for the first time!    My fear of this big boy gets smaller now.  
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Would you be so kind to reveal these settings?
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« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2006, 04:45:55 pm »
I ran KDE 3.5 on a C860, full install on a 1Gb SD.  It was impressive in that the Z could run KDE at all, however it was unusably slow as mentioned in several other posts.  I have just taken delivery of a C3100 and flashed it with PdaX 1.1.0 beta 1.  General impressions are its much 'snappier' than the C860, but before I get too far off topic - I am not sure if it is down to the PXA270 processor or the apps from the C1000/C3100 feed being built to take advantage of the processors features (or both).  My point is, has anyone made a build of KDE 3.5 targeted specifically at the PXA270 processor - would the improvements be enough to make it realistically useable ?

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« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2006, 06:28:46 pm »
I think you are crippling yourself by installing it on an SD card instead of internal flash - most of the time it's reading the card, which is very slow (the Z can't use the high speed capabilities of the SD, as I understand it).  This is why it's been packaged as a compressed file system, so that it will fit in the internal flash.

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« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2006, 12:38:52 am »
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So far I've found that a bit customizing in Desktop Setting Wizard and Control Center does help improve the overall performance.    [div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=109890\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Good news: Further playing with these options now reclaim more than 10MB free RAM free for the first time!    My fear of this big boy gets smaller now.  
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Would you be so kind to reveal these settings?
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It's no secret and no hacking at all.  Just turn off as many eye-candies as you don't really need after having seen them.    
And using the squashfs in the internal memory also feels snappier than installing the ipks on cards.

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« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2006, 06:48:56 am »
Some tests on apm today:

-- The KDE display power management is not working.  It cannot turn off the screen or suspend the device.
[Partly solved -- Just set the time in Light & Power to 0.  Then I enabled Standby, Suspend and Power Off in Display Power Management one at a time.  All seem to work and the device can resume normally (from time-out suspend, not by pressing On/Off button).  But I have yet to find out the difference among the three.  Use On/Off key to suspend results in either the triple-resume phenomenon or the disappearance of the KDE panel/icons in K Menu/command paths (most command fail to execute except logout).]

-- Launch KDE inside an xterm under tvm.  The weird thing is the tvm xterm frame appears both on top and at the bottom of the KDE screen.  KDE panel is floating and movable.  Suspend and resume fails in the same way as launching KDE directly.

-- Launch KDE under matchbox.  KDE can start properly.  Suspend and resums works, but at a cost: upon resume the matchbox panel will raise on top of the KDE one and replaces it.  The KDE panel disappears and fails to come back in focus.  Another anomaly is that the KDE clipboard applet shows up in the matchbox panel but it is not responsive at all.  On some occasions the screen jumps back to the matchbox desktop while KDE is still running in the background and cannot be focused again...  

So far I've seen the only possible way to run KDE with normal apm behaviour is to launch it inside a window manager such as matchbox.  But this is simply not resource-friendly.  

Laze and sashz, would there be any solution to this?   Many thanks!  
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« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2006, 07:59:44 am »
i am using the "lite" version on my C1000 and i don`t have any suspend problems and i don`t use Swap and still can open xmms,kate and konqueror all togther

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« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2006, 08:01:47 am »
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i am using the "lite" version on my C1000 and i don`t have any suspend problems and i don`t use Swap and still can open xmms,kate and konqueror all togther
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That's good news.      Could you tell me if KDE can resume after a "Off button" suspend?  Also what is your Light & Power setting?   Thanks!

I've been testing without swap either.

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« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2006, 09:02:24 am »
I'm pretty sure that when I had KDE (not "lite") on my 860, the charge light never went off.  Now I've re-flashed without KDE, it behaves properly again.

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« Reply #68 on: January 08, 2006, 10:53:40 am »
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So far I've seen the only possible way to run KDE with normal apm behaviour is to launch it inside a window manager such as matchbox.  But this is simply not resource-friendly. 

Laze and sashz, would there be any solution to this?   Many thanks! 
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The solution I found is: don't use KDE's apm.

Start KDE regularly, not from a WM or so.

Then in it run mb-applet-battery. When mb-applet-battery is running, pdaXrom's power settings and apm will work.
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« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2006, 12:45:43 pm »
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The solution I found is: don't use KDE's apm.
Start KDE regularly, not from a WM or so.
Then in it run mb-applet-battery. When mb-applet-battery is running, pdaXrom's power settings and apm will work.
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Thanks for the tip.  But the situation remains the same.  
I unmounted the image and losetup -d /dev/loop0, deleted the dir in ~/.kde, plus deleted the kde dirs in /tmp, so KDE really started anew.  Then I tried this solution a few times, but got the same result even though the mb battery applet is loaded.  

The symptoms:
1st resume: Screen goes off in about a second.  
2nd resume: Screen turns on but with a blank desktop and panel, then goes off again in a second.
3rd resume: Screen may come back with everything intact.  But it may also resume with some icons and command missing, or simply a dark screen only with the cursor left.  Reboot is necessary.

So could anyone verify these?  Or is it just a particular problem with my device or squashfs image?    Thanks!

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« Reply #70 on: January 08, 2006, 01:14:23 pm »
yep when i say suspend i mean from the oof/on button.
my light&power settings are the default ones but now i am working with no suspend(0 time) and one mintue for screen power off.

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« Reply #71 on: January 08, 2006, 11:45:16 pm »
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-- Still have issues with apm.  Doing three times of resuming religiously can bring it back, but sometimes it may fail with a blackout with only the cursor left.  Adding the two lines as suggested by ShiroiKuma in /usr/bin/apm doesn't seem to help.  Read that other users not using KDE also experience this.  So perhaps this is an 1.1.0 beta issue? 

I'm running KDE using the packages in feed and have the same problem in resuming. I notice that when I resume (ie press the ON button) the Z is in fact powered up - I can see the display but the front/backlight isn't on. So I plugged it into the network and logged in to the Z via ssh. Running "ps ax" I find that these processes are still running:
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29776 root       1112 S < /bin/sh /usr/bin/apm --suspend
29781 root       1088 S < /bin/bash /etc/apm/suspend.d/900cardctl suspend
29782 root        452 S < cardctl eject 0

Killing these processes results in the Z suspending itself again and on the next resume it resumes properly. Could it be that because cardctl eject 0 is somehow not exiting correctly (actually not exiting at all) it is causing the resume process to fail? Taking a stab in the dark I would point the finger at KDE's handling of removable media, maybe it's hanging onto the CF card causing cardctl eject 0 to fail? Any experts care to comment  ?

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« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2006, 12:35:06 am »
need koffice and skim ( http://www.scim-im.org/downloads/skim_download )!!
can someone have interest to compile them?
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« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2006, 06:29:59 am »
if some one can compile this:
kdenetwork(or kopete)
Koffice would be nice
kdegames
kdeutils-kcalc,ark very useful
thx

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« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2006, 11:15:01 am »
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Yet another question:
How to map the applications keys?  It seems running inputsetup.py in KDE does not take any effect.  Thanks!
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Sorry... this happens again!  I forgot how many times I got a blink right after asking a stupid question.  

Go to Control Center > Regional and Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts > Command Shortcuts (in the right pane), select the application you want to assign a key to, and then click the 'custom' bullet.  When done, press 'Apply' to save your settings.
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Any idea how to map the silkscreen buttons? Do they even work at all? The hardware buttons work (ie are mappable). When I "click" on the silkscreen buttons all that happens is that the mouse pointer gets pushed all the way to the right of the screen. I've even tried manually editing the silkscreen buttons in the khotkeys config file, but still no joy.


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