Openzaurus 3.5.4 Released

[Spiritmale]

Hi. I clicked on the link and got an error message: "Stack overflow at line72".

Have never seen that before.

Thanks for all the hard work at putting together the new Open ROM.   A question for you -are there resources on how to use it -for example: how to install apps.  I find this very difficult on the Open ROMs -especially when dependencies are involved.

I liked the Sharp ROM in that the install procedure was GUI based and relatively painless.

Cheers.

Grant

[Hrw]

I got a few questions regarding OZ[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120168\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

1. does the fbvncserver in OPIE support the C3x00 models, ie is the keyboard mapped correctly for those models or has it only been recompiled?

Just compiled.

2. is firefox and jamvm integrated, ie is there a java plugin for jamvm or any other java clones) that enables java applets in firefox?

Sun Java license was too strict so we did not work on packaging it.

3. since the openoffice port requires glibc 2.3 and OZ GPE is using 2.3, will openoffice install and run in OZ?

Standard problem with hardfloat (Debian) and softloat (OZ) will happen. If other words - can try, maybe it will even work but I expect calculations results being wrong.

4. is it possible to install both OPIE and GPE and run them concurrently via a fb?, ie run one environment in the foreground while connecting to the other via a vnc client?

It is possible but 64M RAM can be eaten very fast. You can run both on separate VT even.

5. can I run my existing Sharp apps, ie the dictionary and translator applications on OPIE using compat libs?

No - sharp-compat-libs are not expected to work properly - same problem as in 3.

6. can Chinese support be installed by simply installing the chinese locale and chinese fonts?

OPIE: no, GPE: yes

[omro]

What is the difference between hardfloat and softfloat and which is better and why do the different ROMs do it differently?

[Hrw]

http://wiki.openzaurus.org/FAQ#General_questions - question: What is this 'soft-float' which OpenZaurus use?

[Da_Blitz]

Is it not posible to compile in hard-float but compile programs for soft-float so that both can be run or is it a compiled in only module that we dont have much room for (like in the c3k)

[Meanie]

I got a few questions regarding OZ[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120168\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

1. does the fbvncserver in OPIE support the C3x00 models, ie is the keyboard mapped correctly for those models or has it only been recompiled?

Just compiled.

2. is firefox and jamvm integrated, ie is there a java plugin for jamvm or any other java clones) that enables java applets in firefox?

Sun Java license was too strict so we did not work on packaging it.

3. since the openoffice port requires glibc 2.3 and OZ GPE is using 2.3, will openoffice install and run in OZ?

Standard problem with hardfloat (Debian) and softloat (OZ) will happen. If other words - can try, maybe it will even work but I expect calculations results being wrong.

4. is it possible to install both OPIE and GPE and run them concurrently via a fb?, ie run one environment in the foreground while connecting to the other via a vnc client?

It is possible but 64M RAM can be eaten very fast. You can run both on separate VT even.

5. can I run my existing Sharp apps, ie the dictionary and translator applications on OPIE using compat libs?

No - sharp-compat-libs are not expected to work properly - same problem as in 3.

6. can Chinese support be installed by simply installing the chinese locale and chinese fonts?

OPIE: no, GPE: yes
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wow, this took a while to get a reply but thanks for digging it up and finally replying

its a pity there is no real support for vnc for the C3x00 models for the qtopia based distros (opie and sharp/cacko). at least there is x11vnc which works nicely for the X11 based distros.

as far as java support goes, oz already has the classpath package in its feed, but it is a rather old one (0.17) whereas the latest one is 0.91. adding a java plugin for firefox is simple by just compiling gcjwebplugin. sun's java licensing has relaxed a lot from what it was originally.

pity about openoffice but the new abiword can pretty much do all the important thing that oo has, ie print to open and save as pdf doc as well as open staroffice docs.

so the only obstacle now is the japanese and chinese support, in particular the dictionaries.

incidentally, i have noticed that most japanese and chinese users either use sharp rom or pdaxrom rather than oz because asian language support is better understood on those systems. if the oz team would make it easier and document how inputmethods and fonts can be easily added to support chinese and japanese, many more users will jump to oz

[ZDevil]

What meanie says is exactly what holds me back from trying out OZ: the status of CJK support (esp. inputmetod and font display) is unclear.
Actually I am very much willing to try out OZ on my 860 if things are made clearer.
Convenient pointers and accessible instructions to non-geeks are badly needed.
Look forward to having a chance to taste the fruits here.

[Hrw]

No way to run hardfloat and softfloat with current ABI.

Angstrom (our new distribution from OE team) will use EABI so such things will be possible iirc.

[Snappy]

What meanie says is exactly what holds me back from trying out OZ: the status of CJK support (esp. inputmetod and font display) is unclear.
Actually I am very much willing to try out OZ on my 860 if things are made clearer.
Convenient pointers and accessible instructions to non-geeks are badly needed.
Look forward to having a chance to taste the fruits here.
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I'm with Meanie and ZDevil on this as well, ie CJK support. I toggled between Cacko and OZ/gpe/opie Hentges rom for the past 1~2 weeks only because 1) Cacko could not get wifi detected while oz can and 2) I cannot quite find a clear process of getting CJK support installed on oz while Cacko just require some installations and tweaking ... a bit tricky as well, but no rocket science once you found the instructions and done it once.

I'm testing out pdaXrom now ... giving it a few more days to try out with CJK support. It is one up against oz as its GUI package installation works quite nicely while in oz, whenever I ask a quesiton about the GUI package installation, I get the "the GUI ipk installer is crap, use the command line" reply.  

So, CJK support ... anyone?  

EDIT: Missed my smileys!
EDIT: On pdaXrom, I got a Chinese ttf font copied to /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/TTF and rox displays the chinese filenames nicely!

[Hrw]

Snappy: OZ lack CJKV support because we lack developers which use such languages.

For OPIE I will probably check in next weeks how does it works with latest patches (provided by ashikaze iirc (sorry for name errorrs)) and will probably provide updates.

For GPE someone has to check what is needed and work on integrating it. This enviroment should be able to display CJKV with proper fonts.

[rolf]

Snappy: OZ lack CJKV support because we lack developers which use such languages.

This is changing slowly.  Japanese support is working quite nicely now, both HWR and keyboard-based.  I use it daily.  I am willing to support users in exchange for them writing up a HOWTO.  Just open up a thread here and we can talk.

For OPIE I will probably check in next weeks how does it works with latest patches (provided by ashikaze iirc (sorry for name errorrs)) and will probably provide updates.

a bunch of people worked on making this a reality (including myself, but I really did not do much apart from not giving up and trying to coordinate things a bit at http://gakusei.sf.net)

For GPE someone has to check what is needed and work on integrating it. This enviroment should be able to display CJKV with proper fonts.

Display maybe, but that should be no difference between GPE and OPIE.  Input is where the fun is anyway ;-)

Bottom line: OZ DOES JAPANESE!

[miskinis]

I've managed to solve the resolv.conf probelm (through somewhat of an ugly hack) by taking the tar.gz image, extracting it on my desktop PC, removing /etc/default/volatiles/01_resolv.conf and creating /etc/resolv.conf as a real file with my dns settings in it (although dhcp should override these). Then turning this into a new tar.gz file and installing it to the sd card on my zaurus.

I can't see why the default setup caused this problem, but this lets me get round it.
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Wow, I'm running into a slightly different issue (or it's the same issue and I just
noticed different details).  I decided to try the gpe tarball installed to SD, on
the 5500.  I have the 48-16 Opie flashed (if that matters).

My /etc/resolve.conf file is corrupted!  Performing an ls in /etc produces the
"ls: ./resolv.conf: Input/output error" message.  I shutdown the Z, and took the
SD over to my LINUX box, and it also gives the same error on that file.

Also, using "shutdown -h now" on the Z did not work very well.  It gave about
12 errors trying to kill the same process ID (217), and then later said there were no
more processes at this runlevel, and froze the Z.

I may try a different SD card in a few days, but since the I/O error was occuring on
resolv.conf, and I say the previous post, maybe it's the same issue, so I'll wait
until I hear some comments.  All in all, I like the altboot, and I'm looking forward to
trying the GPE 2.7

UPDATE: It must have been the exact same issue.  I performed the procedure
as described in the earlier post, deleting the volatile (?) file in /etc/default and
putting down a real resolv.conf and networking worked.  And on a humorous note,
my WIFI card somehow retained its configuration incuding the WEP key, and WIFI
actually worked before I configured it again!