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« Reply #180 on: January 08, 2007, 09:42:20 pm »
I believe there's a thread that talks about how it shouldn't be long before the SD HC driver is available for us.  I'm wondering if I should not worry about this, or if I should grab another 4GB card for myself as a backup to the one I'm currently using.  If nothing else, my wife should be able to use it in her digital camera.

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« Reply #181 on: January 08, 2007, 09:47:26 pm »
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If you froogle, there were other shops showing the same product in stock anywhere from $5 less to the same price in case TD runs out.
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Also Buy.com has the 4GB SD Transcend for $49.95 at [a href=\"http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203938178&adid=17070&dcaid=17070]http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=...070&dcaid=17070[/url]
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« Reply #182 on: January 08, 2007, 10:47:42 pm »
Thanks for the tip, bought one. FREE Shipping. Yeah.
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« Reply #183 on: January 09, 2007, 08:15:54 am »
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If you froogle, there were other shops showing the same product in stock anywhere from $5 less to the same price in case TD runs out.
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Also Buy.com has the 4GB SD Transcend for $49.95 at [a href=\"http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203938178&adid=17070&dcaid=17070]http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=...070&dcaid=17070[/url]
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If you look again, this isn't the [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]same card[/url].
It's a different model number, plus there is no speed rating.
So it's probably just a standard speed compared to 150x (which might not make much difference on the Z anyway, as long as it works).
« Last Edit: January 09, 2007, 08:38:48 am by dougeeebear »
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« Reply #184 on: January 09, 2007, 10:15:17 am »
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If you froogle, there were other shops showing the same product in stock anywhere from $5 less to the same price in case TD runs out.
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Also Buy.com has the 4GB SD Transcend for $49.95 at [a href=\"http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203938178&adid=17070&dcaid=17070]http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=...070&dcaid=17070[/url]
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If you look again, this isn't the [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]same card[/url].
It's a different model number, plus there is no speed rating.
So it's probably just a standard speed compared to 150x (which might not make much difference on the Z anyway, as long as it works).
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oops, got too excited by the "dropping" prices...
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« Reply #185 on: January 09, 2007, 05:19:09 pm »
Ok, here's my review of the 4GB Transcend SD Card I just purchased.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2007, 05:30:15 pm by dougeeebear »
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« Reply #186 on: January 16, 2007, 11:02:46 pm »
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I have had good success with Transcend SD and CF cards on my Zs.  They make a pretty solid product.  Although I haven't tried that particular card in my Zs yet.  I'm waiting for the local price to drop before I grab one.
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The one I bought [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]here[/url] yesterday dropped in price by 10.00 right after I placed the order.
I called them and they gave me a credit.
I doubt you will find one any cheaper than that.
I've dealt with Tiger Direct for years, and they are excellent to do business with.

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Yum! These are now under $60US and just over $76CAN.  I just couldn't resist at that price for a 4GB card that is guaranteed to work in a 1000.  Now Hachiko won't have disk envy when he looks at Bobby's hardware.    
« Last Edit: January 16, 2007, 11:03:28 pm by HoloVector »
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« Reply #187 on: January 16, 2007, 11:20:57 pm »
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I have had good success with Transcend SD and CF cards on my Zs.  They make a pretty solid product.  Although I haven't tried that particular card in my Zs yet.  I'm waiting for the local price to drop before I grab one.
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The one I bought [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]here[/url] yesterday dropped in price by 10.00 right after I placed the order.
I called them and they gave me a credit.
I doubt you will find one any cheaper than that.
I've dealt with Tiger Direct for years, and they are excellent to do business with.

Regards,
Doug
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Yum! These are now under $60US and just over $76CAN.  I just couldn't resist at that price for a 4GB card that is guaranteed to work in a 1000.  Now Hachiko won't have disk envy when he looks at Bobby's hardware.    
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=151386\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

You could always perform surgery on Hachiko to add more hardware   hehehe.... you could enhance his hardware .....    
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« Reply #188 on: January 17, 2007, 02:03:50 pm »
From your posting on www.tyrannozaurus.com:
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I formatted that 4gb card to ext2 (mkfs.ext2) and this is what system info shows:

SD Card - /mnt/card ext2 : 3860MB
Used (196MB) Available (3664MB)

So I've lost 7% in file space due to linux filesystem overhead compared to Fat32.
Can anyone tell me what's up with that?
Did you add "-m 0" to mke2fs? Normally mke2fs reserves 5% of filesystem space wich can only be used by "root". That is to avoid dos situations if the filsystem is 100% filled (from normal user's point of view). root has additional 5% to give him/her the chance to delete some files. IMO this makes only sense in multi user environments. So you can reclaim this space on the Zaurus.
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« Reply #189 on: January 17, 2007, 06:22:50 pm »
jochen-02,
The command line option "-m 0" worked out perfect.

Thanks a lot for that.

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« Reply #190 on: January 17, 2007, 10:18:42 pm »
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jochen-02,
The command line option "-m 0" worked out perfect.

Thanks a lot for that.

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Hmmm... is this the same for ext3?
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« Reply #191 on: January 17, 2007, 10:55:35 pm »
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I have had good success with Transcend SD and CF cards on my Zs.  They make a pretty solid product.  Although I haven't tried that particular card in my Zs yet.  I'm waiting for the local price to drop before I grab one.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
The one I bought [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]here[/url] yesterday dropped in price by 10.00 right after I placed the order.
I called them and they gave me a credit.
I doubt you will find one any cheaper than that.
I've dealt with Tiger Direct for years, and they are excellent to do business with.

Regards,
Doug
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=150259\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Yum! These are now under $60US and just over $76CAN.  I just couldn't resist at that price for a 4GB card that is guaranteed to work in a 1000.  Now Hachiko won't have disk envy when he looks at Bobby's hardware.    
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=151386\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

You could always perform surgery on Hachiko to add more hardware   hehehe.... you could enhance his hardware .....    
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With my soldering skills, I'd be more likely to neuter him!  
I think I'm coming down with what kahm's got!  I now have 3 Zaurii in house!  ;)
Current: Zaurus SL-C3200 -  Bobby (Configuring pdaXii13 Akita with Full 5.4.9 upgrade running IceWM)
Zaurus SL-C1000 - Hachiko (Configuring Cacko 1.23 with evilJazz's new kernel)
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« Reply #192 on: January 18, 2007, 08:21:01 am »
yes, the mkfs program generally reserves space for non-root

it's actually a good thing to reserve the space, its prevent fragmentation when the disk gets quite full. The 10% is a historic thing from when disks were generally less than 1GB! If you've got a multi-GB disk then probably a few percent is OK (e.g. reserve perhaps ten times the size of the most common file?)

in flash memory, it could prevent premature wearing out because when files are rewritten they can be written to a different set of blocks; if the disk is 99.9% full then re-writing a file will inevitably have to keep rewriting the same blocks.

I don't know if the flash controllers on the cards understand the fat filesystem enough to do any special wear levelling, but that might be the case and explain why cards seem to wear out quicker using ext3. I would propose that it's a good thing if you do put a swap file on the card to regularly delete it and create a fresh one so as to spread the wear.

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« Reply #193 on: January 18, 2007, 08:28:01 am »
BTW, for cheap 4GB cards I've seen www.7dayshop.com do them very very cheap.
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« Reply #194 on: January 18, 2007, 01:39:39 pm »
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Hmmm... is this the same for ext3?
Yes. The main difference between ext2 and ext3 is journalling. ext3 is ext2 with added journalling feature. Which advantages do you expect from journalling on a PDA?
Since journal updates accures quite frequent it in fact may add much wear to a flash memory card.
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