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« on: May 29, 2006, 09:59:34 am »
Hi,

I am a newbie to Linux and the Zaurus.  I love both so far.  I have
a c1000 and am having a problems with mounting a kingston 512meg SD card.

Here is the strange part, which I could use some help with.  The card was working
prefectly with both the Zaurus and Windows XP.  I had used it to install Kino2, Opie Reader, and a few of the Qtopia memory and system apps.  All went well.  Then the Zaurus refused to mount it.  I could still access it with the XP box and a pocket pc.  I tried reformatting it with XP box as fat but still no go. I also tried
(i think this is the command)  the mkfile command from the Zaurus terminal, but the command gave an error.  I have since tried a no name MMC card in the zaurus and it works great.

I have done multiple searches here and have not found a solution. I really would like to be able to use the card in the Z.  

Any help appreciated!
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 10:02:53 am »
There are some SD cards which refuse to work on a zaurus "after a while."  One good example is the sandisk 128mb sd card on the sl-5500.  Reports of it working but after a while dies and refuses to work except on a windows xp machine.

All i can say is "trial and error!"
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2006, 10:12:25 am »
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There are some SD cards which refuse to work on a zaurus "after a while."  One good example is the sandisk 128mb sd card on the sl-5500.  Reports of it working but after a while dies and refuses to work except on a windows xp machine.

All i can say is "trial and error!"
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Hi,

Thanks.  I was afraid that is what I was going to hear.  I wanted to thank you for your help.  I have read many of your posts to other replies and the have been very helpful.  

Is there any problem with leaving the SD card in the Z all the time?

I see you have the pny card.  No problems with that?

thanks again.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2006, 10:23:50 am »
I use to use the PNY on a c-1000.  No problems at all.  Infact, i left it in the sd slot for months rebooting and turning off and all and no problems.  Even ejecting it tons of times trying new software.  Right now, i still have that sd card after 1 year.  It was originally used on my zaurus sl-5500.  I found it to be very stable.  I have droped it tons of times, flexed the chip while it was in my pocket.  worked and still works and now being used to record videos and class lecture on my mustek dv-4500.  I pop that into my c-3200 to replay the audio sometimes, view the pictures i took or even watch videos with the kino player.  the c-1000 went to a good home and i got a c-3200.  it was my main sd card until i experimented with a 2gb sd card.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2006, 02:20:28 pm »
I have a C700 and many SD from kingston and no problems at all.
I have tested 512mb, 256 mb and 128 mb SD without problems.
Except from a 256mb SD that failed but it was replaced by warranty

I think that your SD may be is damage, or in the worst case is a fake SD card, cause i had similar problems with a Sandisk that i bought from a mexican auction and the fact was that it was never maked by Sandisk (i opened it), but it said sandisk on the front, and it was supossed to be a 1gb sd but it had a 512 mb nand chip inside.

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2006, 05:10:24 pm »
I think that your SD may be is damage, or in the worst case is a fake SD card, cause i had similar problems with a Sandisk that i bought from a mexican auction and the fact was that it was never maked by Sandisk (i opened it), but it said sandisk on the front, and it was supossed to be a 1gb sd but it had a 512 mb nand chip inside.

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Hi,

Thanks for the reply. Mine could be damaged or about to fail.  I  believe it is real, but i may try to return it to kinston.  When i bought it it was in the original package.  If it was about to fail you, would think I could simulate the failure on another system.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2006, 11:55:44 am »
Just a reply to my own post.  I wonder if the problems with the SD memory cards are not the manufacturer, but the Security features.  I have not found any posts of people have problems with the MMC cards.  Is anyone aware of problems with any MMC?

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2006, 04:38:37 am »
Mine is too thin to fit in the Z?

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Came out of a Nokia. XD
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2006, 05:43:27 am »
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Mine is too thin to fit in the Z?

?RS?

Came out of a Nokia. XD
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Could be a reduced sized SD. If it is, it should/may come with the snap-off bottom half which makes it more or less an SD/MMC.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2006, 01:55:34 pm »
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Mine is too thin to fit in the Z?

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Came out of a Nokia. XD
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Could be a reduced sized SD. If it is, it should/may come with the snap-off bottom half which makes it more or less an SD/MMC.
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I am currently using a full size MMC in the same Z without problems.  I spoke with level 2 tech support at Kingston and they felt it was not the card because it
worked in both a XP system and a Pocket PC.  The Kingston card still will not work in my Z.  I have a new PNY 1GB card on its way.  But I still find it interesting that this card originally worked and then stopped.
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2006, 02:15:52 pm »
The security feature are an interesting idea. . . .

Did you take it out, put it in a winbox, put it back in and find it unmountable?
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2006, 02:24:35 pm »
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The security feature are an interesting idea. . . .

Did you take it out, put it in a winbox, put it back in and find it unmountable?
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Yes, that is exactly what happend.  I had copied a pod cast over to it.  When
I placed it back in the Z no go.  Would not mount.  The Z just acted like it wasn't there.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2006, 05:14:23 pm »
Looks like you tripped the security function then. . . Although I have no idea how. . . I've NEVER managed to get it to work. XD
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2006, 08:45:38 pm »
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Looks like you tripped the security function then. . . Although I have no idea how. . . I've NEVER managed to get it to work. XD
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Ok, But how do I "untrip" the "feature".  Any ideas appreciated.  I was wondering about trying the updated sd card drivers.  

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2006, 10:01:56 pm »
If you've got a Windows box, and a linux live CD, you could try. .  copying the data off the drive on the windows box
using the Linux liveCD on the windows box to fdisk the drive: Delete all partitions, and then make a new partition, whcih you can then format in windows, and copy your data back.

All I can think of to try. It hasn't happened to me yet.
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