Pdaxrom B3 For C3000

[Meanie]

i have booted both pdaxrom beta3 and beta4 using the oz 2.6 kernel and altboot.

it took some hacking to boot beta3 since it requires a 2.4.20 kernel and thus looks for certin modules in the 2.4.20 lib directory as well as requiring a different /proc and /dev so I copied it over as well and was able to boot beta3. but since some of the matchbox applets in X interrogate /proc and the keymap format is different between 2.4 and 2.6 kernel, starting X was problematic and I ran out of time and patience.

booting pdaxrom beta4 was much simpler. actually, it just worked.

[Meanie]

I am trying to rebuild initrd.bin and its turning out to be a major headache
It just won't want to work.

[cycle_55]

i have booted both pdaxrom beta3 and beta4 using the oz 2.6 kernel and altboot.

it took some hacking to boot beta3 since it requires a 2.4.20 kernel and thus looks for certin modules in the 2.4.20 lib directory as well as requiring a different /proc and /dev so I copied it over as well and was able to boot beta3. but since some of the matchbox applets in X interrogate /proc and the keymap format is different between 2.4 and 2.6 kernel, starting X was problematic and I ran out of time and patience.

booting pdaxrom beta4 was much simpler. actually, it just worked.
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Does that mean one could boot pdaxrom from the harddrive?

cycle_55

[cycle_55]

i have booted both pdaxrom beta3 and beta4 using the oz 2.6 kernel and altboot.

it took some hacking to boot beta3 since it requires a 2.4.20 kernel and thus looks for certin modules in the 2.4.20 lib directory as well as requiring a different /proc and /dev so I copied it over as well and was able to boot beta3. but since some of the matchbox applets in X interrogate /proc and the keymap format is different between 2.4 and 2.6 kernel, starting X was problematic and I ran out of time and patience.

booting pdaxrom beta4 was much simpler. actually, it just worked.
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Does that mean one could boot pdaxrom from the harddrive?

cycle_55
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ooooops sorry guys I see this discussion is about the C3000 and not the C3100, I apologize.

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[TheWalt]

ooooops sorry guys I see this discussion is about the C3000 and not the C3100, I apologize.

cycle_55

Even so I wouldn't mind booting from the internal microdrive even on my 3100, worked great with OZ.

[Meanie]

ok, I got it working. pdaXrom 1.1.0 beta3 on C3000 using Tetsu special kernel 18h, ie 2.4.20

I am going to polish up the installer a bit more. Then I am going to apply all the customisations and create the base hdimage.tgz file

The installer allows you to repartition the MicroDrive, either one partition of 4GB, my custom paritioning which is 1.5GB root, 512MB swap,  2.0GB data
it also allows you to restore the default Sharp partition layout

what I want to do is make this the universal installer for C3000 and allow it to flash pdaXrom beta3, r121 and OZ

anyway,  there's still a lot of work to be done...

[cycle_55]

ooooops sorry guys I see this discussion is about the C3000 and not the C3100, I apologize.

cycle_55

Even so I wouldn't mind booting from the internal microdrive even on my 3100, worked great with OZ.
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I agree totally and I wouldn't mind being able to have just one partition on the drive.

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[chrisluu]

ok, I got it working. pdaXrom 1.1.0 beta3 on C3000 using Tetsu special kernel 18h, ie 2.4.20

I am going to polish up the installer a bit more. Then I am going to apply all the customisations and create the base hdimage.tgz file

The installer allows you to repartition the MicroDrive, either one partition of 4GB, my custom paritioning which is 1.5GB root, 512MB swap,  2.0GB data
it also allows you to restore the default Sharp partition layout

what I want to do is make this the universal installer for C3000 and allow it to flash pdaXrom beta3, r121 and OZ

anyway,  there's still a lot of work to be done...
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Sounds good. What exactly did you have to do to get it work? Mainly, how did you build a working initrd? I think some good documentation would be good so that everyone could benefit. Unfortunately, I've been pretty busy so I haven't gotten to play with it any since my last post.

Do you need any help working through any of it?

[danboid]

ok, I got it working. pdaXrom 1.1.0 beta3 on C3000 using Tetsu special kernel 18h, ie 2.4.20

I am going to polish up the installer a bit more. Then I am going to apply all the customisations and create the base hdimage.tgz file

The installer allows you to repartition the MicroDrive, either one partition of 4GB, my custom paritioning which is 1.5GB root, 512MB swap,  2.0GB data
it also allows you to restore the default Sharp partition layout

what I want to do is make this the universal installer for C3000 and allow it to flash pdaXrom beta3, r121 and OZ

anyway,  there's still a lot of work to be done...
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Wow! That is fantastic news Meanie! I can't wait!

Does this new Tetsu kernel solve the suspend issue present in the last c3k pdax beta? Even more importantly, despite applying the fixes on your pdax customisation page straight after install every time I have suffered major file corruption of my MD with this current beta. Do you think the old kernel and its flakey suspend code was the cause of this? There's nothing wrong with my MD.

If possible, I would very much like to see

The updated Sharp SD driver

gpe-calendar and gpe-announce pre-configured to just work

the updated usbfuntion.py with MD support

your tweaked openbox/xmms configs

Thunar - makes for a great pdax filemanager

zxgv - much better suited as an image viewer on pdax than gqview, shame it lacks a slideshow

and maybe xorg unless this will stop all the b3 feeds working with it or is too much trouble

Just a 'few' things to consider

Go Meanie!

[danboid]

I would also like to highly recommend the inclusion of

libogg / vorbis

mplayer - the mplayer2 version seemed to work better for me

gnumeric

aspell english dictionaries

but maybe we're starting to make it a bit bloaty now eh? Maybe not- almost everybody inevitably installs mplayer- pretty much everyone who isn't solely console -I think most of them are using OZ for that now anyway. People will be wanting this especially for its bvdd video accel and speedier X11 or for more normal PDA like use and that crowd would expect a wp with spell check, a decent spreadsheet app, calendar w/alarm (as already requested) and file manager (latest Thunar please!) so I'd vote these apps in too.

[Meanie]

ooooops sorry guys I see this discussion is about the C3000 and not the C3100, I apologize.

cycle_55

Even so I wouldn't mind booting from the internal microdrive even on my 3100, worked great with OZ.
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I will probably make it work for 3100 as well since it got the same size HDD as the C3000

[adf]

a question and a comment
tetsu kernel?  did you recompile for softfloat?  I was just glancing over this thread and the Tetsu&pdaxrom combo caught my eye

also emelfm might be lighter than thunar...works fine as a default file manager--but don't place anyweight on my views, since I probably won't reflash and redo beta 3 just to run it off the micriodrive.
 though a distro agnostic install/boot method it would be amazing to put different distros on sd cards and boot to any given one at a moment's notice.  
edit: I seee altboot kinda fits the bill.  how did you do beta4 with altboot?  how was performance with the OZ kernel?

on a 3100, might it be possible to loadd OZ for the 1000 and then have the various OZ's and pdaxrom rc121on different sd cards?


Sorry if I wandered off the 3000 boot issue...... your solution was pretty interesting

[koen]

a question and a comment
tetsu kernel?  did you recompile for softfloat?  I was just glancing over this thread and the Tetsu&pdaxrom combo caught my eye
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You don't need to recompile the kernel for softfloat, since softfloat is a userspace thing.

[Meanie]

ok, I got it working. pdaXrom 1.1.0 beta3 on C3000 using Tetsu special kernel 18h, ie 2.4.20

I am going to polish up the installer a bit more. Then I am going to apply all the customisations and create the base hdimage.tgz file

The installer allows you to repartition the MicroDrive, either one partition of 4GB, my custom paritioning which is 1.5GB root, 512MB swap,  2.0GB data
it also allows you to restore the default Sharp partition layout

what I want to do is make this the universal installer for C3000 and allow it to flash pdaXrom beta3, r121 and OZ

anyway,  there's still a lot of work to be done...
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Sounds good. What exactly did you have to do to get it work? Mainly, how did you build a working initrd? I think some good documentation would be good so that everyone could benefit. Unfortunately, I've been pretty busy so I haven't gotten to play with it any since my last post.

Do you need any help working through any of it?
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there was quite a bit of investigation involved to figure out how everything worked. i will document everything once i get it working the way I like. unfortunately, i am quite busy myself as well. hunting for new furniture, etc...

[Meanie]

a question and a comment
tetsu kernel?  did you recompile for softfloat?  I was just glancing over this thread and the Tetsu&pdaxrom combo caught my eye
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You don't need to recompile the kernel for softfloat, since softfloat is a userspace thing.
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Yep, as koen says, it is not necessary to recompile. that's why pdaXrom has two toolchains, gcc 2.95 for the kernel and gcc 3.4.x for the apps.
I chose Tetsu kernel since it is the fastest one for 2.4.20 and has all the latest patches. This way, I can just reflash the kernel whenever Tetsu upgrades his kernel build. The previous beta had a custom kernel afaik because it was using an old shrink down oz initrd as the boot image and required a custom kernel for that image. With my initrd which I ripped from the emergency boot image, I can just use Tetsu's special kernel and not worry about applying kernel patches and doubling effort in building and maintaining my own kernel build.