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« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2006, 01:06:58 pm »
Interestingly, I can connect in win2k.

I'll post the win2k ipconfig aand the Z settings this evening.

My isp wants me to buy a igher speed edge account for twice the price. the gsm disconnects if the server "thinks"  the connection isn't with the phone. --to put it vaguely and opaquely .  Since the win2k connection works, this shuold be surmountable.]  this is why the "zaurus" line just after the chap stuff struck me as ominous..... the name is maybe triggering something?
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« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2006, 03:23:49 pm »
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Interestingly, I can connect in win2k.

I'll post the win2k ipconfig aand the Z settings this evening.

My isp wants me to buy a igher speed edge account for twice the price. the gsm disconnects if the server "thinks"  the connection isn't with the phone. --to put it vaguely and opaquely .  Since the win2k connection works, this shuold be surmountable.]  this is why the "zaurus" line just after the chap stuff struck me as ominous..... the name is maybe triggering something?
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Definitely surmountable - I just meant that it is no longer an error (you're just trying to use settings that the other server doesn't agree to). Your /etc/ppp/chap-secrets file should only need the ISP user name and password, and a * for the server:

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# client server  secret     IP address
  *      
If it says 'zaurus' in there anywhere that could cause the problem, but since the output shows 'CHAP authentication succeeded', it seems like there's no problem here. You shouldn't need a 'name' entry anywhere in your config file.
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« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2006, 03:39:06 pm »
i have nothin at all inchap-secrets..other than the commented stuff.

The reason I think it might possibly be a name thing is based on win behaviour.

If i try from a work winxp on which I have a username, I can't log in..though the software runs, and the box sees the phone as a modem

If i try on win2k from home wher i am Administrator--everything is a snap.

I guess what I'll do is enter the ipconfig  ip numbers in /peers/voq and see what happens.  i thnk though that some "zaurus" hostname ifs setting off a flag at the isp-- one that accepts something windowish.....
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« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2006, 07:19:06 pm »
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i have nothin at all inchap-secrets..other than the commented stuff.

The reason I think it might possibly be a name thing is based on win behaviour.

If i try from a work winxp on which I have a username, I can't log in..though the software runs, and the box sees the phone as a modem

If i try on win2k from home wher i am Administrator--everything is a snap.

I guess what I'll do is enter the ipconfig  ip numbers in /peers/voq and see what happens.  i thnk though that some "zaurus" hostname ifs setting off a flag at the isp-- one that accepts something windowish.....
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Well it says it's using CHAP, so you'll need a valid secret entry to authenticate yourself to the remote server (maybe you only have one in pap-secrets?)

PPP uses the hostname to authenticate - the end result being that basically you set this to your ISP user name, not your actual host name.
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« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2006, 10:44:58 pm »
which hostname, set where?  
in win2k I am sending no username or password (in fact the isp instructions for things like blackberries say not to) that I know of. I thought it might be on the sim card (as you see, I don't quite get how the phone is validated.

I can tell you that I am on win2k over the phone connect rigth now, though
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« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2006, 01:09:50 pm »
would this be  easier on a Nokia 6320?  Has anyone got that combo working?
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« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2006, 03:43:26 pm »
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which hostname, set where? 
in win2k I am sending no username or password (in fact the isp instructions for things like blackberries say not to) that I know of. I thought it might be on the sim card (as you see, I don't quite get how the phone is validated.

I can tell you that I am on win2k over the phone connect rigth now, though
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That's interesting - Telecom NZ has a single user name and password that must be used for all mobile phone data connections just to get connected. They still charge by your phone account.

Have you tried setting the 'noauth' option so it doesn't try to authenticate at all? I doubt this will work though as the debug output you posted clearly shows the remote server asking for a name via CHAP. I think you definitely need an entry in chap-secrets. Do you have a set of instructions for your ISP/phone (even if for Windows - it might help)?

It would appear that changing phone won't help as there are no hardware issues, just configuration.
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« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2006, 06:22:15 pm »
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which hostname, set where? 
in win2k I am sending no username or password (in fact the isp instructions for things like blackberries say not to) that I know of. I thought it might be on the sim card (as you see, I don't quite get how the phone is validated.

I can tell you that I am on win2k over the phone connect rigth now, though
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That's interesting - Telecom NZ has a single user name and password that must be used for all mobile phone data connections just to get connected. They still charge by your phone account.

Have you tried setting the 'noauth' option so it doesn't try to authenticate at all? I doubt this will work though as the debug output you posted clearly shows the remote server asking for a name via CHAP. I think you definitely need an entry in chap-secrets. Do you have a set of instructions for your ISP/phone (even if for Windows - it might help)?

It would appear that changing phone won't help as there are no hardware issues, just configuration.
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I put noauht in chap--it still passes the name Zaurus from someplace.

The isp insttructions say not to enter  a username or password, and in windows, I haven't.

It seems that the question is "what is it that the windows connection is doing that the zaurus cionnection is not?" right?  then what should i look for, and how? if anyone has an idea..
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« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2006, 07:38:18 pm »
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I put noauht in chap--it still passes the name Zaurus from someplace.

The isp insttructions say not to enter  a username or password, and in windows, I haven't.

It seems that the question is "what is it that the windows connection is doing that the zaurus cionnection is not?" right?  then what should i look for, and how? if anyone has an idea..
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Actually the noauth option is for the remote machine - whoops. I can't see any options for not authenticating at this end...

I guess that zaurus is your actual hostname - this will be a last resort because there isn't a chap-secrets entry. I don't think that using a different phone will help because the same settings (and same remote server) apply. Maybe it is sending blank user name and password if none set in Windows.

Perhaps it isn't the auth after all then - have a look at the pppd man page (on another machine or via Google) and scan through the options you have set and what they mean. Do you have 'ms-dns' set? The zaurus seems to be asking for this just before it receives the remote term request, and you shouldn't need this (usepeerdns instead). Also perhaps try 'noip' which is supposed to help with buggy remote ipcp config...
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« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2006, 02:00:01 am »
thanks... I'll tinker for a bit and post in a few days. Hopefuly with a success story, or at least useful info (besides the price and availability of a cf gsm card in the us  )

edit:  a kind of off topic thought, but if i used a gsm card in my Z, then ran voip over that connection....  might it be possible to use that setup with something like vonage? ( I gather the skype thing isn't happening ) just something ai thought should be mentioned
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